series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
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beaubrummels
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Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
It's on the website my friend. Under "other - wiring"
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf
It's on the website my friend. Under "other - wiring"
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf
Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
hi beaubrummels,
Thanks for your reply and the link, which diagrams the series/split/parallel version. The series/parallel/phase version with a on-on-on mini toggle is hard to find but I'm keeping my hopes up. Westbest.
hi beaubrummels,
Thanks for your reply and the link, which diagrams the series/split/parallel version. The series/parallel/phase version with a on-on-on mini toggle is hard to find but I'm keeping my hopes up. Westbest.
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Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
I've never seen or heard of that combo being able to be done with a DPDT before.
Maybe there is something clever I've never seen before about, but I just don't think there are enough lugs and connection possibilities to do that.......it takes all 6 to do OOP, and then 5 of the 6 on another switch to do series/parallel with a DPDT after all.
Maybe a 4PDT would be more like it.
I've never seen or heard of that combo being able to be done with a DPDT before.
Maybe there is something clever I've never seen before about, but I just don't think there are enough lugs and connection possibilities to do that.......it takes all 6 to do OOP, and then 5 of the 6 on another switch to do series/parallel with a DPDT after all.
Maybe a 4PDT would be more like it.
Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
Hi beaubrummels, hi all,
I know this post is old, but I have trouble fully understanding the "Serie/Split/Parallel with on/on/on mini toggle" wiring diagram that you pointed (i.e. https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf ).
I only understand 2 out of 3 "on" positions: I cannot figure out what would be connected with what in the third "on" position, and anyway, how this would correspond to the "split" wiring, described here: https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...content/uploads/2016/05/WD_Coil_Splitting.pdf , i.e one coil’s start and finish being connected together (coil short-circuit) and to ground.
In the case of this wiring diagram, I think that this means that red and green shall be connected.
Could you help me understand?
So if we start with the “Serie/Split/Parallel with on/on/on mini toggle” diagram that I copy pasted and on which I added letters:
I understand that one "on" position of the toggle connects C-E and D-F. This is the “Parallel” wiring.
Another "on" position connects D-B (and C-A, but ignore), such that C and D are connected. This is the "Serie" wiring.
But what is the third "on" position, then? If it’s just the "neutral connection" (no letters connected together) then it’s not a "Split" wiring (and this would correspond to a "off" toggle position not a "on" anyway).
So: is the the third "on" connecting A-E and B-F? This would short-circuit the north coil and connect it to "hot" output, but red/south finish will stay unconnected, so we won’t have any signal...
All letters connected together? This would short-circuit everything...
No, really, I don’t get it.
Thanks in advance for any help!
By the way: any pointers to a where to buy a "on/on/on mini toggle"? I didn’t find any. It's easy to find on/off/on toggle, but on/on/on … Thanks!
Hi beaubrummels, hi all,
I know this post is old, but I have trouble fully understanding the "Serie/Split/Parallel with on/on/on mini toggle" wiring diagram that you pointed (i.e. https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf ).
I only understand 2 out of 3 "on" positions: I cannot figure out what would be connected with what in the third "on" position, and anyway, how this would correspond to the "split" wiring, described here: https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...content/uploads/2016/05/WD_Coil_Splitting.pdf , i.e one coil’s start and finish being connected together (coil short-circuit) and to ground.
In the case of this wiring diagram, I think that this means that red and green shall be connected.
Could you help me understand?
So if we start with the “Serie/Split/Parallel with on/on/on mini toggle” diagram that I copy pasted and on which I added letters:
I understand that one "on" position of the toggle connects C-E and D-F. This is the “Parallel” wiring.
Another "on" position connects D-B (and C-A, but ignore), such that C and D are connected. This is the "Serie" wiring.
But what is the third "on" position, then? If it’s just the "neutral connection" (no letters connected together) then it’s not a "Split" wiring (and this would correspond to a "off" toggle position not a "on" anyway).
So: is the the third "on" connecting A-E and B-F? This would short-circuit the north coil and connect it to "hot" output, but red/south finish will stay unconnected, so we won’t have any signal...
All letters connected together? This would short-circuit everything...
No, really, I don’t get it.
Thanks in advance for any help!
By the way: any pointers to a where to buy a "on/on/on mini toggle"? I didn’t find any. It's easy to find on/off/on toggle, but on/on/on … Thanks!
beaubrummels
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Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
Your description is not how an on-on-on toggle switch works. A-E and B-F are never connected.
https://www.seymourduncan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/WD_Minitoggle_3.jpg
Your description is not how an on-on-on toggle switch works. A-E and B-F are never connected.
https://www.seymourduncan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/WD_Minitoggle_3.jpg
Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
Hello beaubrummels,
Perfect, thanks a lot, that is exactly the schematic I was looking for. For some reason I haven't been able to find it by myself.
So the third "on" connects E-C-B-D so white+red+green to ground, exactly the "split" wiring, perfect.
Everything makes sense now.
Hello beaubrummels,
Perfect, thanks a lot, that is exactly the schematic I was looking for. For some reason I haven't been able to find it by myself.
So the third "on" connects E-C-B-D so white+red+green to ground, exactly the "split" wiring, perfect.
Everything makes sense now.
Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
Exactly, that's how you get series/split/parallel. But it is impossible to add phase to that circuit without adding another DPDT switch.
Here's how the phase switch is wired:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/WD_H_phase.pdf
And here's how the s/s/p and phase switches would be linked:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...-content/uploads/2016/05/WD_H_link_ph_ssp.pdf
Exactly, that's how you get series/split/parallel. But it is impossible to add phase to that circuit without adding another DPDT switch.
Here's how the phase switch is wired:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/WD_H_phase.pdf
And here's how the s/s/p and phase switches would be linked:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...-content/uploads/2016/05/WD_H_link_ph_ssp.pdf
beaubrummels
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Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
Depends on where you are located. A simple Google search is usually pretty good at finding things like that. It’s not specific for guitar. It’s a basic general electronic component.
Depends on where you are located. A simple Google search is usually pretty good at finding things like that. It’s not specific for guitar. It’s a basic general electronic component.
Re: series/parallel/phase wiring with on-on-on mini toggle
https://www.amazon.com/SALECOM-Posi...h&qid=1573123767&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/SALECOM-Posi...h&qid=1573123767&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-4
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