Seymour 59 measuring zero ohm resistance?

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They do have the SD logo engraved on the base plate. I'll try to unsolder them tomorrow and take a pic. I guess I'm hosed anyway if they're counterfeit, not sure Reverb can do much but I'm going to contact them anyway.
 
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But there is still the problem of the multimeter readings. If one of the pups gets a zero reading (indicating continuity) between the plain and black wire, that means there is probably a short between the black wire and baseplate. Perhaps a cut in the insulation of the black wire where it goes through the hole in the baseplate. Or the connection between the black wire and the coil wire might not be insulated very well with the black tape.

In any case, these are NOT the pups as advertised! They are NOT a JB/59 set...10k or 11k is neither JB nor 59. And since there is a short in the wiring of one of the pups, they are NOT in "Excellent" condition, as advertised.

Because these are NOT as advertised, you should be able to return them to Reverb. It's sad that you bought a used, fake, set of pups for more than it would cost to buy a brand new REAL set. You should be able to get a good used set for about half that price.
 
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Not sure how things work internationally, but Reverb is very good about helping the buyer with not-as-described issues here in the U.S. Clearly those are counterfeit. Clearly they are broken and not-as-described.

Mr. Vito, the seller, is a low life. He most likely bought them on a site like Alibaba, DHGate or AliExpress at a "very good" price delivered compared to buying from a reputable source or from the U.S., realized they were junk, and sold them off as soon as he could.

If you get a chance, please take some clear pictures of the pickups top and bottom so we can share your experience with other forum members and the SD company.
 
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I would go to reverb, too. It is getting to the point that you'd have to do some research to see if you are getting what you ordered. Hopefully Reverb wants to keep fakes off of their site, too. Did you give the seller a review yet?
 
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At minimum, they are not functioning in spec to what was advertised, so should be returnable.
 
Re: Seymour 59 measuring zero ohm resistance?

Not sure how things work internationally, but Reverb is very good about helping the buyer with not-as-described issues here in the U.S. Clearly those are counterfeit. Clearly they are broken and not-as-described.

Mr. Vito, the seller, is a low life. He most likely bought them on a site like Alibaba, DHGate or AliExpress at a "very good" price delivered compared to buying from a reputable source or from the U.S., realized they were junk, and sold them off as soon as he could.

If you get a chance, please take some clear pictures of the pickups top and bottom so we can share your experience with other forum members and the SD company.
Angels advocate :. It is possible but unlikely the seller didn't know they were fake. Could've just bought them from a friend, never used them and decided to sell the.. Maybe let's not burn his house down just yet. It's easy for duncan-freaks like us to spot fakes but casual players may not have a clue . I can't read the ad since it's in Spanish so I don't know if it says anything like "tested and working" so I dunno. Just saying..

Anyway reverb should be able to hook you up, they usually tend to bend over backwards for the buyer

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I would go to reverb, too. It is getting to the point that you'd have to do some research to see if you are getting what you ordered. Hopefully Reverb wants to keep fakes off of their site, too. Did you give the seller a review yet?

So the seller blocked me immediately after concluding the sale and prevented me from entering any feedback. He was very aggressive in his communication style. For example when I asked about a UPS tracking number for three days, he said "I have better things to do than taking care of your crappy pickups". I had already paid at that point :/
 
Re: Seymour 59 measuring zero ohm resistance?

Not sure how things work internationally, but Reverb is very good about helping the buyer with not-as-described issues here in the U.S. Clearly those are counterfeit. Clearly they are broken and not-as-described.

Mr. Vito, the seller, is a low life. He most likely bought them on a site like Alibaba, DHGate or AliExpress at a "very good" price delivered compared to buying from a reputable source or from the U.S., realized they were junk, and sold them off as soon as he could.

If you get a chance, please take some clear pictures of the pickups top and bottom so we can share your experience with other forum members and the SD company.

Done - see below. Pictures from both pickups' base plates and Ohm readings.
 
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So the seller blocked me immediately after concluding the sale and prevented me from entering any feedback. He was very aggressive in his communication style. For example when I asked about a UPS tracking number for three days, he said "I have better things to do than taking care of your crappy pickups". I had already paid at that point :/
Wow, what an arsehole .. okay... he knew.. go after that bastard and make sure you leave a review saying exactly how he treated you.

I truly hope reverb manages to refund you for your purchase. If need be, maybe you could send them to this page for reference so they can see all of the opinions that they are fake and such. Might help.

PayPal itself also inherently has protection against fraud , so long as the invoice on the payment says what you're paying for, then you are protected if you don't get it. you could try that Avenue as well.

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It’s possible those started life as legit Duncans at some point but they’ve been messed with. Duncan’s have stickers on the bottom identifying the model. Also on uncovered 59s, the bobbin tape wraps onto the baseplate from the factory. The 4-conductor could be if they were pulled from an OEM guitar (JB/59 is a common OEM install), or added by someone later.

What’s strange is in the photos of the tops, the logo bobbins look rounded along the top outside edges while the non-printed bobbins looked flatter / sharper along the top outside edges, to me anyway; like they took a Duncan bobbin and made a hybrid with something else on a Duncan baseplate. Was that a trick if the camera angle, or are the bobbins actually different in shape and geometry?
 
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They didn't start life as legitimate Duncans. They are being produced this way, not being recreated from old parts!
 
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I'd contact Reverb right away. With the way he acted, I think it clearly shows that he knew. No mercy here.
 
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Reverb will suspend the store and give you reverb bucks credit if you let them know what's going on. They can also see the message history.
 
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Wait a minute...three-dollar bills are fake?!

Darn it, I've got a bunch of those.
 
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So the seller blocked me immediately after concluding the sale and prevented me from entering any feedback. He was very aggressive in his communication style. For example when I asked about a UPS tracking number for three days, he said "I have better things to do than taking care of your crappy pickups". I had already paid at that point :/

Screw him... I'd say go for it. I'd ask reverb and paypal for a refund and try to leave a negative review on him (maybe via asking reverb directly).

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