Seymour Duncan be trollin hard

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You have to invest in the whole signal chain if this kind of fidelity really matters to you and that would be waaaay out of the range of almost any player I've ever personally known.

http://www.acousticbarn.com/ABblog/?p=511

$35 drumsticks. This would be for the drummer in the band with the guy with Zephyr pickups, right?
 
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You have to invest in the whole signal chain if this kind of fidelity really matters to you and that would be waaaay out of the range of almost any player I've ever personally known.

http://www.acousticbarn.com/ABblog/?p=511

$35 drumsticks. This would be for the drummer in the band with the guy with Zephyr pickups, right?
Only $35? I've seen guitar picks that cost more!

As far as being out of range of most players, you forgot [deliberately?] the all-important blues lawyer demographic.
 
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Yeah, I've played in bands with those guys. Loading their $6000 Les Pauls and Divided by 13 rigs out of their Hummers and then trying to sing the "blues". Yeah, very convincing. At least they pay well.

I was outraged that I had to pay $15 for a pair of sticks yesterday. I used to get them for $7/pair. I blame Ben Bernanke.
 
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The term "blues lawyer" always makes me think of this, which seems at least as sincere a representation of blues music:



Although, I'm pretty sure I remember a little white girl singing about the blues in a Kraft commercial at one point, which is infinitely more hilarious.
 
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what do you do if you think you may be a blues lawyer?
is there some kind of screening?
 
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what do you do if you think you may be a blues lawyer?
is there some kind of screening?

There's a blood test, an MMPI, and a financial application.
 
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i was afraid of becoming a blues lawyer so i dropped out of school

I dropped out of school partly because I didn't want to become a pointy-headed little engineering 'bot. (No offense to engineers on the forum; I just couldn't stand the people I was in university with.)
 
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I see these as being a better value than $25,000 EVH Frankenstrat copies, and I believe they sold all of those.
 
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I see these as being a better value than $25,000 EVH Frankenstrat copies, and I believe they sold all of those.

Well, if I had to grip to buy one of those, I would also be temped to get a Zephyr pickup for it. How much you wanna bet Ed is going to have a set made for him, once he catches wind of it?
 
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I don't understand the haters on this.

There's a market for it, although most of us aren't in that target market, or more sensible to spend that money on a pickup when it could go toward something else.

The price of high end PRS guitars is on average $3500, with private stock going for much higher, in the $8,000 range. My dream amp, a Mesa Mark V with bubunga cabinet and wicker grill, is selling on eBay for $5,000. For people, whether they're players or collectors buying these goods, there is a market.

Many of us spend just under $200 in new pickups on a $600 guitar. Surely there are people that might spend $1200 on a $4800 guitar.
 
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I definitely like the idea of these options being available a la carté. Makes me wonder what a hybrid with ONE silver coil and one regular coil might be like. Have I just opened up a can 'o worms or what?

So far I didn't like hybrids so mixing coils is probably not for me.

But it would be interesting to get one pickup and exchange parts one by one with a regular pickup. Of course that's kinda risky since there's no guarantee that e.g. the polepieces actually fit.

I am also concerned about the silver as such. It reduces resistance while keeping inductance up (and probably capacitance, too). I wonder how careful SD was to place the resonance peak back at a useful location. Assuming you can make up your mind what a useful location for the resonance peak is.
 
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The thing that I don't like about the pricing isn't the general level.

But somebody in marketing decided that it "looks better" to make all sets the same price. I can see 3 Strat pickups being the same as two humbuckers, but come on, two humbuckers the same as a set of Tele pickups? And what about just getting one humbucker?
 
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^ I would imagine somewhere between $600-$700. I wonder if they have those bobbins for phat cats? :scratchch
 
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The thing that I don't like about the pricing isn't the general level.

But somebody in marketing decided that it "looks better" to make all sets the same price. I can see 3 Strat pickups being the same as two humbuckers, but come on, two humbuckers the same as a set of Tele pickups? And what about just getting one humbucker?
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showpost.php?p=2733837&postcount=57 (and 69 as well)

Grape minds...
 
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I'm starting to think this is a joke and Evan is in on it.

I can assure you, this is no joke. Quite the contrary. We believe that, with Zephyrs, we are re-defining what's possible in electric guitar tone. And we understand that these pickups might be for everyone. That's fine. If they're not for you, that's OK. We believe we have other pickup products that will suit your needs.

But for those who are willing to explore what's possible in guitar tone -- when materials and construction techniques are not limited by price considerations -- Zephyr pickups could be the call.

This is just the beginning of Zephyr. Rest assured there will be more to come on this.

- EAS (NAMM)
 
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The thing that I don't like about the pricing isn't the general level.

But somebody in marketing decided that it "looks better" to make all sets the same price. I can see 3 Strat pickups being the same as two humbuckers, but come on, two humbuckers the same as a set of Tele pickups? And what about just getting one humbucker?

You'll be glad to know that you're right! The Tele set is $995 retail. You're also right about the strat and hb's. There is generally less wire per coil on a humbucker bobbin than a strat bobbin, so it equals out.
 
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Since the main reason I have not purchased a Seth Lover set for my Ibie is that I don't trust the local guy to do a correct install, I certainly wouldn't trust him with $1200 pickups.

I'm with Adam on this one.

Edit: I asked my wife, and I even suggested that I could get a set for all three of my electric guitars.

She said, "No."
 
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I can assure you, this is no joke. Quite the contrary. We believe that, with Zephyrs, we are re-defining what's possible in electric guitar tone. And we understand that these pickups might be for everyone. That's fine. If they're not for you, that's OK. We believe we have other pickup products that will suit your needs.

But for those who are willing to explore what's possible in guitar tone -- when materials and construction techniques are not limited by price considerations -- Zephyr pickups could be the call.

This is just the beginning of Zephyr. Rest assured there will be more to come on this.

- EAS (NAMM)

Will we be able to do mix sets, ie: if we wanted an HSS of a brobucker and 2 SSL-1s for a strat, or say a '59 and a broadcaster in a tele. Or is it pup by pup, and if none are ordered, none are made?

Seems like it has legs as an idea, but I wonder if it would be extended to individual pups so those with non-trad setups can get in on the fun too. (HSH, HSS, HS, etc.)

Jason
 
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