Seymour Duncan Pickups Suck Period

Re: Seymour Duncan Pickups Suck Period

ok, well .. now we have something more substantial to talk about

you are not correct that guys here will slam your gear for no reason ... the way you came on so badly might get you some slams, but i have never seen anyone get their gear slammed ... and i actually have never seen anyone get their non-SD pickups slammed either ... i have a mostly low dollar guitars, some of them with non-SDs and no one has ever ragged me - all i ever got help in finding the pickups that would get me where i was looking to get ... and my amp rig is nowhere near as high $$ / high-quality as yours and i've never gotten ragged on that either ...

you also dont tell us what kind of music you play (unless i missed it - i reread your posts twice to try to find it) .. that really makes all the difference in the world ... we've seen guys come on here and tell us that they cant hear the difference in pickups because all they want is uber smash gain .. after we explain that the compression associated with that much gain usually flattens many pickups into sounding very much alike (and often not very good), they tend to figure that alot of folks know what theyre talking about .. and yeah, the VR is not going to work for high gain - they do tend to need to be close to the strings to work best, closer than a single coil it might have replaced ... if your jazz(n) is muddy, could it be that it is too close to the strings ... you might not have considered the effect of pot values (250K vs 500k) ... all i am saying is that if show some respect and give us the background, we can help ... if you dont, we cant ...

also, without knowing what kind of wood your fingerboards/necks/bodies are made of we cant give better advice ... we also dont know if you are using a trem or not (and which kind, if so) ... these things effect it too ...

also, what about the 21 day return policy for the ones you bought? you couldve gotten them turned in for something more to your liking .. i'm telling you, if you are within the 21 day period then just call cathy duncan (CEO) herself if (by some very odd reason) regular customer service doesnt help you (and i'm confident that they will) .. she said with her own mouth not 15 feet in front of me that they want every customer to dig their tone and will do what it takes to help them find the product that will work for them ... if you call them and behave better than you have on here, you'll feel a ton better about the whole process

and after all that, yunno what? SDs might not be for you ... there are several much beloved tone bros on this board who dont have ANY SDs ... and that is all good too .. they are just respectful and pleasant and fun and useful contributing members like everyone else .. there is no 'oath' of allegiance to SD pups here .. the only oath is to behaving like a responsible and respectful human being

make your choice

good luck
t4d
 
Re: Seymour Duncan Pickups Suck Period

Zhangliqun said:
I can't believe we're this far into the thread and this is the first time the TROLL ALERT has been sounded. Do you guys just not get a lot of trolls in here? Over at the LPF, they're nailed by the 3rd or 4th post.

And you're right -- the quality of trolls just ain't what it used to be, although this is a new low for lack of imagination...
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That which is understood need not be discussed...........
 
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I just read his post and the only conclusion I can come up with is that he uses too much gain that all the pickups sound the same ... muddy and ****ty. For example, he said 59 and DD sound the same, which is impossible unless an excessive amount of gain is involved, which leads to a conclusion that he really doesn't understand how to properly use musical instruments. So why bother?
 
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brisk said:
I just read his post and the only conclusion I can come up with is that he uses too much gain that all the pickups sound the same ... muddy and ****ty. For example, he said 59 and DD sound the same, which is impossible unless an excessive amount of gain is involved, which leads to a conclusion that he really doesn't understand how to properly use musical instruments. So why bother?
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you are right. there is another posibility, maybe that guy is playing unplugged. thats why all pickups sound the same.
 
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so why bother?
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in order to 'pay forward' all of the patience and tolerance and enlightenment that was bestowed upon us by our teachers

those who are the most lost, need the most help
 
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bzdup said:
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But here's the deal: the 59, the lil 59 , the neck 59, the Duncan Distortion all sound identical. The only disappointment here is with the DD since all the rest should sound the same or close to it. But the DD should sound different, I mean, the descriptions I read from SD and from reviews was that it has an output and sound equivalent or better than an EMG 81! That was not the case. It sounds identical to the 59, and lil 59 except it has a little overall output, which gets lost in high gain situations. The frequency pickup is almost identical, and they just aren't different sounding.

The Vintage Rails Pickup is a joke. I play it and laugh. It is horrible. It sounds worse than the stock pickups to my spare guitar. Seriously. There is no "glass" to it. It is very low output, and it just sounds weak. The frequency pickup is horrible.

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I won't comment about the Jazz since I've not played one.

The Vintage Rails is one of my favorite Strat pups. I've played a ton of them, Fenders', Lace's, Fralins, and I reallly like it a lot. It's the same pup as the Duckbucker, just different cosmetics. In my strat, it's one of the best noiseless single coil sized strat pups I've touched.

About the 59's listed.... the idea behind the L'il 59 is to make a single coil sized bucker that sounds like a full sized 59. So, the idea is for them all to sound very similar.

I played a DD at the NAMM show and it sure sounded a heck of a lot more modern than a 59. I'm not a huge fan of that type music, so I'm maybe not the best to compare them to stuff, but I'd say definitely different.

I'd ask you like I'd ask anyone else that has painted with such a broad brush....

What pup height to strings are you setting these up?

What guitar? What amp? No one is here to tear up your choices in gear. Billy Gibbons would sound just as great with a rondo tele and a ibanez solid state amp.

If you go about analyzing the situation in depth and you provide some missing pieces to the puzzle, there are a lot of great guys here that know their stuff that could give you a lot of great suggestions.

And, welcome tothe board. :)
 
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Welcome to the SD Forum!!....maybe this will help.

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Jolly, Jolly, Jolly... I just :chairfall :laugh2:


Jolly 27

Seymour 15

Disgruntled Buyer 1
 
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