Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

[clarqo]

Hi again guys, after searching, reading and searching again, I opted for two sets of humbuckers.

Seymour Duncan
- TB-4 JB + Pearly gates neck

Dimarzio
- Crunch Lab + Liquifire

My guitar is an ESP Horizon FRII, mahogany body, ebony freetboard, floyd rose bridge. I play different styles of music from blues to metal and that's why I need a versatile set.

Any recommendation and / or experience.

Thanks again.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I do tend to think the JB/PG combo is a good one, and can do many things very well.

 

[dave74]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

You'll want the jb set for versatility IMO.
I tend to like ceramics more, but CL wasn't really my cup of rare-earth. (too dry,, not enough juiciness)

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I do tend to think the JB/PG combo is a good one, and can do many things very well.

Yep, i think is a very good set, to break the common of jb +jazz or jb + 59...thanks for yor reply.

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

You'll want the jb set for versatility IMO.

That’s right. Actually I play almost everything, thats the reason I’m searching for a flexeable sound...

 

[gregory]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

There are a lot of guys here who advise against a JB in mahogany, FWIW.

You never mentioned what kind of tone you're looking for. The two pairs are extremely different from one another.

The LiquiFire is one of the best neck pickups ever designed, IMO. The PG is great too, but much lower output. I'd take the CL over the JB for metal but neither are my favorites and neither are particularly versatile, though I've been smacked down for saying that about the CL before.

 

[gregory]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I'd consider any of the following:

Pegasus/Sentient
Perpetual Burn/Jazz
Screamin' Demon/Jazz
59 Bridge/Sentient
Air Norton/Bluesbucker (series and parallel switching for the BB: extremely versatile)
The Breed Neck (in the bridge)/PAF Pro (both pickups split well)
Custom/LiquiFire
Parallel Axis Original/Sentient
59/Custom/Jazz, Sentient or 59 Neck

All of the bridge models above are far far far more versatile than the CL or JB. You can mix and match the neck pickups, of course.

The Pearly Gates will work in the neck with any of the bridge pickups. It's not the best for pristine cleans but it still has a nice clean tone.

The LiquiFire could work with The Breed Neck, Parallel Axis, Pegasus, Perpetual Burn, possibly the AN, though I prefer it with hotter ceramics.

The PAF Joe is also a great medium output neck pickup.

 

[esandes]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I have a JB in the bridge of one of my guitars and it's very versatile and it works great at lower guitar volumes. Three of my amps are non master volume so I can get great clean/crunch tones at lower volumes then huge overdrive with the turn of the guitar volume. The JB doesn't lose tone at lower guitar volumes. I think it's because it's so powerful at 16 DCR.

I'm researching a neck HB too and the PG is sweet because it has some extra treble. I used to prefer the jazz neck, then 59 and now PG just based on sound clips online. The sound clips on this site are very helpful.

 

[Ben1962]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

FWIW, I lack the expertise of many guys in here. But I do own too many pickup sets LOL. I love the Pegasus/Sentient. I was playing some nice funk, cleans and metal all the other day. I was floored how nice the funk stuff was. To me, the Pegasus isnt a "nasty" PUP. The Nazgul seems like it has a certain growl that at 1st you think is real nice, but can tire of quickly. If you are out of tune the least little bit at all, gets really harsh. I know you should be in tune, but I mean its gotta be balls on. The Peg is more "polite" to me. Plenty of harmonics and output but no huge leaps in certain frequencies. Awesome set for me thru my EVH tube. I also feel the Nazgul can sound thin as well. At least in standard tunings, but thats not what its designed for. You want wow, go Nazgul, you want versatile with no weakness, Pegasus. And the Sentient is awesome as well

 

[PierceOkken]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

Highly recommend JB set, the dimarzio set is pretty good through

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

Hi again guys, after searching, reading and searching again, I opted for two sets of humbuckers.

Seymour Duncan
- TB-4 JB + Pearly gates neck

Dimarzio
- Crunch Lab + Liquifire

My guitar is an ESP Horizon FRII, mahogany body, ebony freetboard, floyd rose bridge. I play different styles of music from blues to metal and that's why I need a versatile set.

Any recommendation and / or experience.

Thanks again.

The Crunch Lab and JB can cover very similar musical ground, but the Crunch Lab is a bit stiffer and lacks some of the depth and body to the notes that the JB has. In other words, the JB has a little more character in my experience, but the Crunch Lab is still a great pickup. If you want improved string-to-string articulation and a nice bottom end crunch for standing out under gobs of gain, the Crunch Lab is a solid choice. For a better all-arounder, though, the JB is tough to beat.

As for the neck pickups, the Liquifire has more output than the Pearly Gates Neck and more of that string-to-string definition that the Crunch Lab has. That said, the Pearly Gates Neck is a very clear and musical pickup that can cover a ton of styles, as well. You could always try the PGN to start and swap it for something like a Jazz or Sentient if you find you need a little more clarity or output. Still, I love the PGN myself and it can get some great tones when combined with the JB in the bridge.

 

[Chad]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

Just wanted to throw out there that I've owned two very similar Horizons. I put a PATB1/59n combo in both and it worked great.

 

[PierceOkken]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I think these are pretty different sets of pickups and may give really different results. The JB set is what I would recommend because it is the one I have the most experience with, but the dimarzio's complement ESP and Ibenez pretty well, so they might be a good shout

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

There are a lot of guys here who advise against a JB in mahogany, FWIW.

Yep, you are right, i have 2 friends that told me the same, but other 3 ones told me the oposite....

According to what I have heard, the JB and CL can achieve impressive and very similar things. I think both have a very wide tonal range, but effectively, CL are more aggressive.

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

I'm researching a neck HB too and the PG is sweet because it has some extra treble. I used to prefer the jazz neck, then 59 and now PG just based on sound clips online. The sound clips on this site are very helpful.

Actually my first options were the 59 and jazz, but this time I want to try something different, more warm and that allows me to have a more flexible sound. I think the PG, can be an excellent HB, for all kinds of styles, from blues to metal (considering that I have a high gain amplifier) ​​... only when it will be installed I can give a more objective opinion.

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

You could always try the PGN to start and swap it for something like a Jazz or Sentient if you find you need a little more clarity or output. Still, I love the PGN myself and it can get some great tones when combined with the JB in the bridge.

That is more what I want, to experiment with something different that I have not tried before. If the PG does not meet my expectations I think I can change it to another guitar and try another neck PUP.

 

[clarqo]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

The LiquiFire could work with The Breed Neck, Parallel Axis, Pegasus, Perpetual Burn, possibly the AN, though I prefer it with hotter ceramics.

I have read on different websites that the CL and LF do not achieve their full potential in mahogany guitars, like the JB. I think it can be reality or some punctual case ... who knows.

 

[gregory]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

My friend has a mahogany Ibanez S with CL/LF and it sounds amazing! It's a 7-sting, however.

 

[evan47]

Re: Seymour duncan vs dimrzio set in ESP Horizon help

Why not take a look at the EMG Fat 55 set? Classic PAF sounds with adequate power, nice when played clean too, Not a million miles away from the seymours you are considering and have plug-in solderless connections too.
I have these in my ltd ec1000 and a JB/Jazz combo in a washburn parrallaxe les paul alike and they are both in the same ballpark soundwise.