fretburner
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How good is this amp? Do they take pedals well? I only have experience with Twins and Bassman 410, so that would be a good point of reference.
SF Bandmaster
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kmcguitars
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Re: SF Bandmaster
Because most Bandmaster's don't have reverb. They lack the extra gain stage of reverb models. Still not a bad amp at all. Just lacks the balls a bassman or other reverb models.
Because most Bandmaster's don't have reverb. They lack the extra gain stage of reverb models. Still not a bad amp at all. Just lacks the balls a bassman or other reverb models.
fretburner
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Re: SF Bandmaster
can you elaborate on it lacking balls?
how are the cleans? if ever i'm going to buy it, i'm gonna use pedals for dirt, so essentially, i will just be using it for cleans. and which is why it's important for me that it takes dirt pedals very well.
can you elaborate on it lacking balls?
how are the cleans? if ever i'm going to buy it, i'm gonna use pedals for dirt, so essentially, i will just be using it for cleans. and which is why it's important for me that it takes dirt pedals very well.
Re: SF Bandmaster
Bassman w/ reverb ???
Anyway, one of the big differences between a BM and a SF/BF Bassman is the OT---same PT, same plate voltages. In stock form, they are pretty wimpy with the 35 watt iron. Swap out to a Bassman or a multitap 50 watt OT (Allen sells one with the same footprint as the stock OT), and it's a different critter---cleaner, louder, a lot more low end.
Bassman w/ reverb ???
Anyway, one of the big differences between a BM and a SF/BF Bassman is the OT---same PT, same plate voltages. In stock form, they are pretty wimpy with the 35 watt iron. Swap out to a Bassman or a multitap 50 watt OT (Allen sells one with the same footprint as the stock OT), and it's a different critter---cleaner, louder, a lot more low end.
Re: SF Bandmaster
i have the allen unit and it bolts right on and was very easy to swap out.
it wasnt as impressed as i thought i would be. it is a little cleaner and does have a little more bottom end but isnt any louder as far as i can tell. i already had a really nice but smaller aftermarket tranny in there so im sure that was part of it.
if you have a cheap ot in there it will probably make a significant difference
i have the allen unit and it bolts right on and was very easy to swap out.
it wasnt as impressed as i thought i would be. it is a little cleaner and does have a little more bottom end but isnt any louder as far as i can tell. i already had a really nice but smaller aftermarket tranny in there so im sure that was part of it.
if you have a cheap ot in there it will probably make a significant difference
fretburner
Well-known member
Re: SF Bandmaster
Okay. Now, I'm more confused than ever. What's OT? PT? Allen?
And isn't a bandmaster supposed to be 50 watts?
Okay. Now, I'm more confused than ever. What's OT? PT? Allen?
And isn't a bandmaster supposed to be 50 watts?
Re: SF Bandmaster
First off, if it is a SF, are we talking about the regular Bandmaster or the Bandmaster Reverb ('68 on on)? The BR sounds different than the regular BM. Both of them sound good, IMO, but the BR does have more thickness and sounds great for clean and dirty. After some a/b tests, I find that I like them both for clean, but for my tone I like the non-reverb model better as it's more articulate (IMO of course) for the clean tones. For the dirty tones, I prefer the Bandmaster Reverb.
The folks above are talking about transformers...the true heart of the amp, IMHO. OT=Output Transformer, PT=Power Transformer. Changing the transformer can really change the character of the amp; some folks change the transformers in the Bandmasters to get the tone closer to the more sought models/versions of Fender amps (at least I think that's why they do it).
First off, if it is a SF, are we talking about the regular Bandmaster or the Bandmaster Reverb ('68 on on)? The BR sounds different than the regular BM. Both of them sound good, IMO, but the BR does have more thickness and sounds great for clean and dirty. After some a/b tests, I find that I like them both for clean, but for my tone I like the non-reverb model better as it's more articulate (IMO of course) for the clean tones. For the dirty tones, I prefer the Bandmaster Reverb.
The folks above are talking about transformers...the true heart of the amp, IMHO. OT=Output Transformer, PT=Power Transformer. Changing the transformer can really change the character of the amp; some folks change the transformers in the Bandmasters to get the tone closer to the more sought models/versions of Fender amps (at least I think that's why they do it).
fretburner
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Re: SF Bandmaster
it's a regular bandmaster (NO reverb).
i don't think changing the transformers would be something that i will do. i'm not really into mods and stuff, and wouldn't want to spend money on bringing it to a pro.
so does this amp take pedals well? i will be using pedals for dirt.
thanks!
it's a regular bandmaster (NO reverb).
i don't think changing the transformers would be something that i will do. i'm not really into mods and stuff, and wouldn't want to spend money on bringing it to a pro.
so does this amp take pedals well? i will be using pedals for dirt.
thanks!
