SH-16 on the Duncan Website
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frankfalbo
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I'll be nuanced in what I say here, but since my name was brought up, I'll say that my approach, in the past and now, is to give a great deal of honor and respect to what happens here. Some people say "but it's such a small percent of guitar players" to which I reply sure but they're ALL pickup enthusiasts, or they wouldn't be here! Furthermore, your enthusiasm also makes you guys evangelists and opinion leaders in "real life" and everywhere else on social media. You're the people who care enough to correct someone on Facebook or one of the Les Paul forums about which 59 coil is in the 59/Custom Hybrid, when the wrong information is propagated.
But that's not the root of why I'm here, nor is it that I still work heavily in the pickup industry. I LIKE pickups. I was a forum member before I ever worked for Seymour Duncan. I'm not here to promote, or for self aggrandizement. I'm from here. And Evan started the whole thing. No one had to tell him to come hang out here. If I had to guess, that's the main difference between our era and today's. Aside from Dave (who does a fantastic job) it's pretty difficult to find someone who is already an active forum nerd and an expert. I think it's difficult to take someone who's not passionate about it and "assign" them to it.
But in the meantime, social media has changed drastically over the past 20/10/5 years. Many of us come here for different reasons than the main ones a decade ago. If you came here 10 years ago looking to have all your questions answered, chances are now you've become pretty well educated and maybe you're here to help others, or even on a more social basis. So really, what we had was a perfect storm whose time has probably passed. And in that regard, sometimes nostalgia makes us remember "the good old days" which include the newness of it, the old social media landscape, our old bodies, etc. But I'm still here, with more grey hair, more guitars, more pickups....
And yes, the 59/Custom Hybrid uses a 59 Bridge coil as the screw coil, and the Custom coil is the slug coil, which is the coil that will split to if the pickup is wired in the standard way.
I'll be nuanced in what I say here, but since my name was brought up, I'll say that my approach, in the past and now, is to give a great deal of honor and respect to what happens here. Some people say "but it's such a small percent of guitar players" to which I reply sure but they're ALL pickup enthusiasts, or they wouldn't be here! Furthermore, your enthusiasm also makes you guys evangelists and opinion leaders in "real life" and everywhere else on social media. You're the people who care enough to correct someone on Facebook or one of the Les Paul forums about which 59 coil is in the 59/Custom Hybrid, when the wrong information is propagated.
But that's not the root of why I'm here, nor is it that I still work heavily in the pickup industry. I LIKE pickups. I was a forum member before I ever worked for Seymour Duncan. I'm not here to promote, or for self aggrandizement. I'm from here. And Evan started the whole thing. No one had to tell him to come hang out here. If I had to guess, that's the main difference between our era and today's. Aside from Dave (who does a fantastic job) it's pretty difficult to find someone who is already an active forum nerd and an expert. I think it's difficult to take someone who's not passionate about it and "assign" them to it.
But in the meantime, social media has changed drastically over the past 20/10/5 years. Many of us come here for different reasons than the main ones a decade ago. If you came here 10 years ago looking to have all your questions answered, chances are now you've become pretty well educated and maybe you're here to help others, or even on a more social basis. So really, what we had was a perfect storm whose time has probably passed. And in that regard, sometimes nostalgia makes us remember "the good old days" which include the newness of it, the old social media landscape, our old bodies, etc. But I'm still here, with more grey hair, more guitars, more pickups....
And yes, the 59/Custom Hybrid uses a 59 Bridge coil as the screw coil, and the Custom coil is the slug coil, which is the coil that will split to if the pickup is wired in the standard way.
Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
Gregory,
Why would you make such a rude remark to me, and at me. For no reason. Everything I said helps me, and the sound I get, the sound I want. I take the cover off the bridge so the very strong slugs have a better pull on the strings. I do this in real life.
I think if the op tried my no hassle way of turning the p'up it would help him too. I actually was trying to help a forum member. Not make fun of them. Who do you think you are to make fun of and take a jab at an honest effort on my part to help another. "Help Another" being the operative word here.
Steve Buffington
Gregory,
Why would you make such a rude remark to me, and at me. For no reason. Everything I said helps me, and the sound I get, the sound I want. I take the cover off the bridge so the very strong slugs have a better pull on the strings. I do this in real life.
I think if the op tried my no hassle way of turning the p'up it would help him too. I actually was trying to help a forum member. Not make fun of them. Who do you think you are to make fun of and take a jab at an honest effort on my part to help another. "Help Another" being the operative word here.
Steve Buffington
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Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
Thanks guys, I really do appreciate the support. I have rallied for more company involvement here, and you do see occasional posts from Max, Alex, Riley, and Boomer here. This certainly helps me, as sometimes there are questions as only one of them can answer. My goals here are to promote positive discussion, and provide a space where everyone from beginner to advanced feels comfortable asking questions. I am on tons of other forums, and none of them are as popular as they were 10 years ago. But this forum gets mentioned a lot on other forums as one of the places people can really get help without judgement. That makes me happy.
Thanks guys, I really do appreciate the support. I have rallied for more company involvement here, and you do see occasional posts from Max, Alex, Riley, and Boomer here. This certainly helps me, as sometimes there are questions as only one of them can answer. My goals here are to promote positive discussion, and provide a space where everyone from beginner to advanced feels comfortable asking questions. I am on tons of other forums, and none of them are as popular as they were 10 years ago. But this forum gets mentioned a lot on other forums as one of the places people can really get help without judgement. That makes me happy.
LtKojak
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Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
Nevertheless, most probably to save a buck or two, gave an "all systems go" forwarding the process without safety net, and when the whole thing crashed and burned like the Hinderburg, it was no way to turn around. Something a twelve-year boy making his first site knows as there's a whole chapter about it in "Building a Website for Dummies"... book that came in the year 2000.
What about dedicating some human resource to monitor the SDUGF? With a heavy load of many other tasks to see through, Evan Skopp and specially Frank Falbo never failed to answer any questions, even difficult ones. Their presence was systematic, and Frank was considered one of the regulars, and he did it not only it was in his gene-pool, having a passion for p'ups. He did it for respect of all regulars and talked to anybody as he was their equal, even to trolls!
Riley, with a mind-boggling 57 posts in two years, you obviously DO NOT qualify for the job. Find somebody that at least try at make believe to care about the customer base. Not that it'll happen anytime soon, if ever. It's much better making juicy donations just to get awards to be able to appair on the paper and TV... more stuff to fuel the shallow and hollow culture of the "make believe".
HTH,
Riley, I've complained about this very issue at least a dozen times since you started to work, in 2015. It took only two whole years to correct? You're certainly doing a GREAT job, indeed!
When the debacle took place, aka "Sitegate", in the end of July 2015, there were several offers of several people really qualified to take the daunting task of put things together, but at the very top, the head honcho itself decided to bury the head in the sand, to hide and deflect the personal responsability for the event and complete inability to respond, most probably because it didn't even know the first thing about migrating a website to a different platform, let alone one so full of accurate information about p'ups design, contruction and tone, that it was universally considered as the Library of Alexandria of everything about guitar tone.
Nevertheless, most probably to save a buck or two, gave an "all systems go" forwarding the process without safety net, and when the whole thing crashed and burned like the Hinderburg, it was no way to turn around. Something a twelve-year boy making his first site knows as there's a whole chapter about it in "Building a Website for Dummies"... book that came in the year 2000.
What about dedicating some human resource to monitor the SDUGF? With a heavy load of many other tasks to see through, Evan Skopp and specially Frank Falbo never failed to answer any questions, even difficult ones. Their presence was systematic, and Frank was considered one of the regulars, and he did it not only it was in his gene-pool, having a passion for p'ups. He did it for respect of all regulars and talked to anybody as he was their equal, even to trolls!
Riley, with a mind-boggling 57 posts in two years, you obviously DO NOT qualify for the job. Find somebody that at least try at make believe to care about the customer base. Not that it'll happen anytime soon, if ever. It's much better making juicy donations just to get awards to be able to appair on the paper and TV... more stuff to fuel the shallow and hollow culture of the "make believe".
HTH,
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Riley
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Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
I want to apologize to anyone who has raised concerns regarding the information on the website in the past and seen no action taken – I understand why that would be frustrating.
We do have a dedicated forum admin in Dave (Mincer) who I believe does an excellent job answering questions and keeping the forum running smoothly, and many of our staff spend some time every day reading the forum as well. I’m happy to answer questions whenever I can and post when I feel my input is needed. Often times, the experts on the forum have already chimed in with the right answers, which is great.
As Dave mentioned earlier, we want to promote positive discussion and provide a space where everyone feels comfortable – I would ask that we all keep that in mind and communicate with one another constructively and with respect.
I want to apologize to anyone who has raised concerns regarding the information on the website in the past and seen no action taken – I understand why that would be frustrating.
We do have a dedicated forum admin in Dave (Mincer) who I believe does an excellent job answering questions and keeping the forum running smoothly, and many of our staff spend some time every day reading the forum as well. I’m happy to answer questions whenever I can and post when I feel my input is needed. Often times, the experts on the forum have already chimed in with the right answers, which is great.
As Dave mentioned earlier, we want to promote positive discussion and provide a space where everyone feels comfortable – I would ask that we all keep that in mind and communicate with one another constructively and with respect.
gregory
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Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
Why not fix the misinformation instead of relying on Dave and the the forum members to sort it out each and every time it gets brought up?
This time around, we had a regular forum "expert" say the 59 scew coil is "3.5-3.8 k" with somebody adding validity by liking the post.
I don't think it's a good idea to be continually heaping this on Dave's shoulders and rely on forum members who often feel the need to guess because they don't have the proper facts at their disposal. Guess what often happens in these situations: even more people are misled.
Why not fix the misinformation instead of relying on Dave and the the forum members to sort it out each and every time it gets brought up?
This time around, we had a regular forum "expert" say the 59 scew coil is "3.5-3.8 k" with somebody adding validity by liking the post.
I don't think it's a good idea to be continually heaping this on Dave's shoulders and rely on forum members who often feel the need to guess because they don't have the proper facts at their disposal. Guess what often happens in these situations: even more people are misled.
Riley
New Products Specialist
Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
Fair point. The 59 screw coil on the 59/C hybrid should read more like 4.1k since it is taken from the 59 bridge, and using our default wiring scheme it would split to the Custom (slug) coil. We've upated the information on the product page and we'll try to respond to these issues more quickly in the future.
Fair point. The 59 screw coil on the 59/C hybrid should read more like 4.1k since it is taken from the 59 bridge, and using our default wiring scheme it would split to the Custom (slug) coil. We've upated the information on the product page and we'll try to respond to these issues more quickly in the future.
Re: SH-16 on the Duncan Website
gregory,
After reading it again, I can see that I did go way off topic. My reason for the info was just that it is possible to turn it around to get a much stronger bobbin closer to the saddles, setting it up for a better and more substantial bright sound.
But that wasn't the question. So please accept my apology, and I meant to do a good deed. That's all.
Steve Buffington
gregory,
After reading it again, I can see that I did go way off topic. My reason for the info was just that it is possible to turn it around to get a much stronger bobbin closer to the saddles, setting it up for a better and more substantial bright sound.
But that wasn't the question. So please accept my apology, and I meant to do a good deed. That's all.
Steve Buffington
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