Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

I'd really be happier if someone from the SD custom shop just said...

"Oh yeah. The JB neck. Yeah it's pretty much just a Jazz model."

OR!

"Oh yeah. The JB neck. Yeah it's pretty much just a Seymourizer with an A5 magnet."

But obviously they haven't. So everybody else on this page: Credibility-0

So the Jazz being the only neck pickup to have ever been an official set with the JB isn't enough for you? Are you upset about no single model in the Custom family having a specifically compatible neck pickup too? The antiquity JB is also paired with the antiquity Jazz.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

All I want to know is if the JB neck model is a custom wind for OEM manufacturers or it's a rebadged '59/Jazz.

No it is not. The JB neck model that comes with some OEM guitars is actually just a regular old normal JB with the logo printed on the other side. No different wind no different mags nothing. It is a JB flipped around for all intents and purposes.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

So the Jazz being the only neck pickup to have ever been an official set with the JB isn't enough for you? Are you upset about no single model in the Custom family having a specifically compatible neck pickup too? The antiquity JB is also paired with the antiquity Jazz.

How do you reconcile the Jazz bridge then? While the JB and Jazz have been offered as a set the Jazz isnt a neck version of the JB its just a pickup that was partnered with it.

They share nothing in terms of winds. Completely different gauges of wire and resistances so they arent anymore related than a apple and a orange. Just people seem to like them together and they get sold as a set.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

The JB and the Distortion are NOT EXACTLY the same wind. But they are so damn close that I cannot describe how many F&^%^'s I don't give, but it would require a tesseract to hold them all.

No one here knows for sure anyone who advocates one way or another is just stating an opinion. I have mine and its based off much better info than most but its still not a confirmation from SD on the issue. SD is going to stay as mum as they can on the issue and any statements made about it will be deliberately ambiguous.

'Zerb approved.

Some might take that as a good example of what not to do. We've had guys around here glue nails to the top of their polepieces and thought it sounded good, doesnt mean it is good.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

No it is not. The JB neck model that comes with some OEM guitars is actually just a regular old normal JB with the logo printed on the other side. No different wind no different mags nothing. It is a JB flipped around for all intents and purposes.

Read my earlier post dude. The JB neck model clearly meters at 7.7K. It's low wind. Some manufacturers might stick (2) SH-4b models in a row. Clearly not Kramer.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

So the Jazz being the only neck pickup to have ever been an official set with the JB isn't enough for you? Are you upset about no single model in the Custom family having a specifically compatible neck pickup too? The antiquity JB is also paired with the antiquity Jazz.

No it's not good enough for me. When someone goes out of their way to tell me specific numbers to contradict another manufacturer's specifications, I get curious.

I use a JB Trembucker paired with a JB Jr neck model in one of my guitars. If there was nothing to discuss here, why didn't SD just market the JB Jr neck model as the "Jazz Junior"?

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

Read my earlier post dude. The JB neck model clearly meters at 7.7K. It's low wind. Some manufacturers might stick (2) SH-4b models in a row. Clearly not Kramer.

Sorry dude but your wrong again... the satchel sig is listed as having a SH2 neck from this page http://www.kramerguitars.com/products/pacer/ltd-satchel-pacer-vintage.aspx

"Satchel chose world famous Seymour Duncan Pickups for his Ltd. Pacer Vintage signature model with a Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge position and Seymour Duncan SH-2N in the neck position."

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

How do you reconcile the Jazz bridge then? While the JB and Jazz have been offered as a set the Jazz isnt a neck version of the JB its just a pickup that was partnered with it.

They share nothing in terms of winds. Completely different gauges of wire and resistances so they arent anymore related than a apple and a orange. Just people seem to like them together and they get sold as a set.

Because while the Jazz fits with the JB, not everyone wants a bridge that hot and they liked the Jazz's tonal qualities enough to make the bridge version. Which brings up another question that I don't know the answer to: When did Seymour start making separate Neck and Bridge models for certain pickups? Something tells me it wasn't like that from the beginning, but a response to a demand.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

Once upon a time there were NO neck/bridge calibrations. And quite honestly, I've never had any problems making most pairs work either. I have ran dual superD's neck/bridge just fine.

I don't know. But I do know the anal pucker crowd regarding this issue is ridiculous. Use your damn ears and move on!

You guys would probably drink bleach if it were labeled Pepsi regardless of the look/smell the way you sound here.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

LOL Edgecrusher. Stop trying to be cool. It's the internet okay?

Also, I was referring to this model:http://www.kramerguitars.com/Products/Pacer/Pacer-Vintage.aspx
Satchel used the Kramer Vintage as a backup to his USA Imperial models up until recently when he received a signature model.

HOWEVER! To your credit, you've actually referenced something interesting.

On Sweetwater's listing, it shows the description for Satchel's guitar has a Jazz/JB.
On the specs sheet, it shows neck: JN, bridge: JB

Therefore! Conclusively and officially,
JN = SH-2

Edge you're wrong it's not just a JB placed in the neck position.
Ace you're wrong it's not a A5 swapped SH-6n.
It's just a Jazz model
Much love. God bless
/thread

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

PS. Ace is right. This thread is completely ridiculous.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

Edge you're wrong it's not just a JB placed in the neck position.

Iam not wrong. When companies have actually had JB's in the neck it is just a JB bridge in the neck. This is true for Hamer and Jackson. Kramer has NOT used JB's in the neck, YOU read their specs wrong. And assumed that JN was a JB neck instead of a Jazz. Sorry dude no donuts for that one.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

Iam not wrong.

Yes you are.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

Yes you are.

Considering I'm the one that showed you the error you made not sure how this can be but its ok,

I guess you are just frustrated that you cant terry stop me and tune me up a bit.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

You're wrong, here's why.

This is a 4 year old thread and I resurrected it for no purpose whatsoever.
The entire basis of my argument is a single passage. Which completely derailed the entire point of the OP, but you seemed to eat up like that glutton in Se7en.
I thought it would be funny how Seinfeldish this would get.

1)There is no SH-4n model. It doesn't exist.
2)The page I quoted just says "JN" It doesn't mention the Jazz model.

You seem to be under the impression that I would enjoy dirtying my gloves touching some short bald fat guy. You're (spelled correctly) hilarious. Now please stop eating it doesn't help you play better.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

For the record - I have NEVER said there was a JB neck. However - if you want something that would so closely approximate it for all practically purposes….

I'd use a Distortion Neck with an A5. And until SD makes and actual one….

Bite me.

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

As far as I know, there is an SH-4n; The JB neck is the same as JB bridge except for having the logo printed on the slug coil. It was the stock neck pickup on the Jackson KV2.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

You're wrong, here's why.

This is a 4 year old thread and I resurrected it for no purpose whatsoever.
The entire basis of my argument is a single passage. Which completely derailed the entire point of the OP, but you seemed to eat up like that glutton in Se7en.
I thought it would be funny how Seinfeldish this would get.

1)There is no SH-4n model. It doesn't exist.
2)The page I quoted just says "JN" It doesn't mention the Jazz model.

You seem to be under the impression that I would enjoy dirtying my gloves touching some short bald fat guy. You're (spelled correctly) hilarious. Now please stop eating it doesn't help you play better.

I gotta commend you only a true public servant can twist words to mean what they dont. I'm sure it serves you well in your day job.

But I already know you have a problem with me so I expect nothing less from you.

 

[9unslin9er]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

It was the stock neck pickup on the Jackson KV2.

Still is:
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/guitars/king-v/models/usa-kv2-king-v-ebony-fretboard-black/

I think that pickup in the neck position is called...Ummm...a regular TB-4 JB.

SH-4n doesn't exist.

But how about! If you want a high output neck to go with a JB bridge? JUST USE A DUNCAN DISTORTION SH-6N model???!!!

Don't even magnet swap! It'll probably sound good!

But I already know you have a problem with me so I expect nothing less from you.

I don't even understand how anybody could be emotionally affected by web text, let alone have a problem with it. Weird.

 

[BriGuy1968]

Re: Sh-4n, JB Neck Pickup

You're wrong, here's why.

This is a 4 year old thread and I resurrected it for no purpose whatsoever.
The entire basis of my argument is a single passage. Which completely derailed the entire point of the OP, but you seemed to eat up like that glutton in Se7en.
I thought it would be funny how Seinfeldish this would get.

1)There is no SH-4n model. It doesn't exist.
2)The page I quoted just says "JN" It doesn't mention the Jazz model.

You seem to be under the impression that I would enjoy dirtying my gloves touching some short bald fat guy. You're (spelled correctly) hilarious. Now please stop eating it doesn't help you play better.

Still is:
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/guitars/king-v/models/usa-kv2-king-v-ebony-fretboard-black/

I think that pickup in the neck position is called...Ummm...a regular TB-4 JB.

I don't even understand how anybody could be emotionally affected by web text, let alone have a problem with it. Weird.

I think the point is that it's kind of a jerk move to come on here and resurrect an old thread just to stir up trouble. Perhaps you should go back to middle school, 9unlin9er, where such behavior is expected and tolerated.


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