Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

mehegama

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Has anyone any experience with the single coil Fishman Fluence modern? I need a lot of output on my HS Horizon neck and currently the Dimarzio FT2 I have, is not hot enough. How do they compare with a very hot one like the SD Blackouts singe coil?
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is a "Modern" Fluence in the single coil size, just the "single-width" models they've always had, correct?

If so, they are vintage-voiced and unlikely to give you the output you're after. The Blackouts single would be a slightly better option. However, going with an "active" pickup doesn't always mean "more output".

What is it about the Fast Track 2 that isn't doing it for you? The FT2 is the hottest single coil-sized pickup DiMarzio makes...makes me wonder if something is up with the wiring or maybe you haven't tried adjusting the pickup height?
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

I agree with Masta C... I think you’ve got the standard single width for Strat, then the single width meant for combining with the humbuckers.
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

Agreed with the above.

Definitely an issue somewhere. Sure that's the pickup combo you have? How about other guitars you own through the same amp?
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

Indeed, Fishman told me that they have s true single coil type of sound and are not hot enough. My issue with FT2 is that in comparison with my other 2 guitars that have single coil Blackouts and a humbucker on the neck respectively, they sound much more gainy for the same patch. For example on tapping on the lower strings you need to press harder to get the same sound. Of course the FT2 is much better than the original single coil i used to have on this guitar, but still i would prefer it a bit hotter.
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

It does sound like either your FT2 is not wired up correctly, or what you're really after is a much hotter, single-coil sized humbucker in the neck.

The Fluence Single Width pickups are geared toward a vintage-voiced sound in the neck which to me, means less output and a less heavy-hitting sound. You could try something like a mini super D and maybe that would be hot and big enough?

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Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

My issue with FT2 is that in comparison with my other 2 guitars that have single coil Blackouts and a humbucker on the neck respectively, they sound much more gainy for the same patch. For example on tapping on the lower strings you need to press harder to get the same sound.

1) Double check the wiring
2) Play with the pickup's height relative to the strings

What are you using for a bridge pickup in this guitar? What value pots/caps are you using?

It does sound like either your FT2 is not wired up correctly, or what you're really after is a much hotter, single-coil sized humbucker in the neck...

The FT2 IS a single-coil sized humbucker and it's the hottest one DiMarzio makes, modeled after the Super 3. A mini Super D isn't going to be hotter unless something is defective with the current pickup.
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

the wiring seems good. I ll check the height. the bridge humbucker is an ESP Mother II (quite hot). I m not sure what are the pots. I m not saying it s bad. Just maybe I prefer a bit more output. I ll try adjust the hight a bit.
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

Just maybe I prefer a bit more output.

Assuming that your pickup is working correctly and the wiring isn't an issue, it's hard to get "more output" than an FT2.

I suppose you could try something like a Hot Rails Bridge in the neck or maybe the SD Custom Shop Invader single coil or perhaps a first-gen Zexcoil in their hottest wind, but your options are very limited.

Let us know how it goes with the height adjustments
 
Re: Single coil Fishman Fluence modern output ??

If you did end up going the Fishman route, you’d want the SSA model, which was designed to be combined in various ways with (Fluence) humbuckers. The baseline voice is the more Texas hot type of sound, but still with the vintage Strat glassy top end, but it also has a +3dB solder bridge on it, in case it’s not loud enough for you.
 
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