Slash set too bright in lp

[Batman89]

Hi all
i have a Gibson les Paul slash signatur with the
sd slash set
but in that guitar the top end is piercing(on bridge)
would the standard alnico 2 be a better bridge for that guitar, or do you have better alternatives

i am playing thru an marshall dsl with boss gt1000 for effects

i have had another guitar with the slash set, which was my favorite humbucker Sound in the lower output

so its a little shock it is so bright in that guitar
it is almost brighter than my tele

 

[chadd]

If the guitar is that bright, I'd try a 250k volume (and possibly tone)pot first.

 

[gsammo79]

Hi all
i have a Gibson les Paul slash signatur with the
sd slash set
but in that guitar the top end is piercing(on bridge)
would the standard alnico 2 be a better bridge for that guitar, or do you have better alternatives

i am playing thru an marshall dsl with boss gt1000 for effects

i have had another guitar with the slash set, which was my favorite humbucker Sound in the lower output

so its a little shock it is so bright in that guitar
it is almost brighter than my tele

The standard Alnico Pro2 would probably be slightly less bright. One thing ive never heard is the A2Pro having too much treble.

 

[Aceman]

I'm just gonna ask....Is there any reason you can't just turn the tone down a touch and leave it there?
- Noted, similar, but not exactly the same as a 250k pot.

 

[Aceman]

Hi all
i have a Gibson les Paul slash signatur with the
sd slash set
but in that guitar the top end is piercing(on bridge)
would the standard alnico 2 be a better bridge for that guitar, or do you have better alternatives

i am playing thru an marshall dsl with boss gt1000 for effects

i have had another guitar with the slash set, which was my favorite humbucker Sound in the lower output

so its a little shock it is so bright in that guitar
it is almost brighter than my tele

As for the surprise.....

A lot of mojo (French for "different wood" ) goes into an LP. Get a bright piece of Rosewood, a bright piece of Mahogany neck, a body that resonates just so....BAM - super bright Les Paul. Not common, but it happens.

 

[Batman89]

If the guitar is that bright, I'd try a 250k volume (and possibly tone)pot first.

Thats mayby the trick for it

 

[Batman89]

The standard Alnico Pro2 would probably be slightly less bright. One thing ive never heard is the A2Pro having too much treble.

I am also realy surpriced its that bright

 

[Batman89]

I'm just gonna ask....Is there any reason you can't just turn the tone down a touch and leave it there?
- Noted, similar, but not exactly the same as a 250k pot.

Even with the tone knob Around 1,5 its still very bright, any lower than that i get too much rolled off

 

[Batman89]

As for the surprise.....

A lot of mojo (French for "different wood" ) goes into an LP. Get a bright piece of Rosewood, a bright piece of Mahogany neck, a body that resonates just so....BAM - super bright Les Paul. Not common, but it happens.

Yeah but the neck pickup is not brighter, than the other lp i had
which is a little confusing for me at least

 

[jeremy]

odd, but id start with a 250k volume control first. if thats not enough, 250k tone as well. if that doesnt work, look for another pup. pots are cheap and youll tamp down the resonant peak

 

[beaubrummels]

I would just roll the tone off. Changing pickups or even pots seems like an extreme solution to tame treble, especially a sig model Les Paul.

 

[JMP/HBE]

Never liked Saul's pups.
SH-5 & 59n can't go wrong in a LP.

 

[Mincer]

I might even just re-EQ the amp. The standard A2P is less bright, but not by a ton. You can also just put the tone knobs on the guitar on 6, and think of that as 10.

 

[Aceman]

Even with the tone knob Around 1,5 its still very bright, any lower than that i get too much rolled off

OK...now we have something wrong with the pickup, or your ears....

 

[skelt101]

OK...now we have something wrong with the pickup, or your ears....

Or the tone pot…

 

[jeremy]

if this is a gibson slash signature model, i have to assume they used quality stuff. did you get this new or used? tone control at 1.5 should be pretty dark, so id check the wiring first

 

[Wound_Up]

if this is a gibson slash signature model, i have to assume they used quality stuff. did you get this new or used? tone control at 1.5 should be pretty dark, so id check the wiring first

I agree. Tone at 1.5 should be anything but bright.

And for it to go from too bright at 1.5 to too dark at less than that makes one wonder what exactly is going on. Checking my own guitars, it seems like treble is gone between 3&4, so to get to 1.5 and still be bright is pretty odd.

Batman89, can you post a sound clip?

 

[Mincer]

Maybe it is accidently wired in parallel?

 

[freefrog]

As usual, what comes to my mind is this (especially the third paragraph from the bottom, just above the grey horizontal line):

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/All_About_Tone.htm/CableandSound.htm

IOW: there's other means than lowered tone pots, lower pots resistance or other pickups to reduce brightness with a guitar hosting passive transducers.
As an alternative to sonically darkening long and/or coily cables used by rock stars on big stages (and explaining potentially why they lean sometimes toward bright pickups), a stupid capacitor from hot to ground of the transducer will do the job and will sound natural as long as its value is not too high. Count 100 to 150pF of capacitance per meter of cable to emulate. Start with a 1nF (1000pF) cap. Put two of them in series for 500pF if the sound is too middy. Put them in parallel for 2nF if it's still too bright. Fine tune if needed with other values (680pF, 1500pF or whatever satisfies your ears).

Caps are cheap. Trying them from hot to ground with alligator clips takes a few seconds. Soldering them requires a few minutes.

This recipe has been successfully used here dozens of times - for example in a LP copy made of maple and whose tone was unbearingly bright with a PG bridge; I've already mentioned this case several times here, so, sorry for the rambling...

 

[Batman89]

I would just roll the tone off. Changing pickups or even pots seems like an extreme solution to tame treble, especially a sig model Les Paul.

Normaly i would do that but because even at 1.5 its too bright and lower than that its too much cutoff