Slash set too bright in lp

Thanks all i will double check all the wiring
there must be some thing wired wrong with the bridge vol/tone
becauce there is more ice picky top end than my tele
and have guitars from single coils to emg screamers and this is the only guitar that is almost unbearble in the top end, going thru same rig

can a defective tone control do that
 
Well the Slash set is supposed to be bright even though it's A2.

Bumping down your pots for the bridge will help.

You can also swap a double thick A2 in. It will round it out and make it less ice picky.
 
Batman89 said:
this is the only guitar that is almost unbearble in the top end, going thru same rig

can a defective tone control do that
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No, a defective tone control shouldn't do that. A tone pot wired like a hi-pass filter would but it must be wired as such intentionally.

It would be interesting to check the wiring if the pickup is fitted with a 4 conductors cable because odd things can happen there.

For instance, I'd check the junction between coils: if the red and white wires are not properly soldered and act like a series capacitor, it might explain what happens.
Unless the two coils are wired out of phase (with black + red or white + green twisted together). That's something that I had to correct at least once these last years.
Unless the pickup has a problem. Does it give a DCR reading? Does its output level drop when the tone pot is lowered?
 
Clint 55 said:
Well the Slash set is supposed to be bright even though it's A2.

Bumping down your pots for the bridge will help.

You can also swap a double thick A2 in. It will round it out and make it less ice picky.
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The other lp i had was not a bright guitar with that set, so to me it a little curious the bridge is super bright but the neck is like the other guitar
 
freefrog said:
No, a defective tone control shouldn't do that. A tone pot wired like a hi-pass filter would but it must be wired as such intentionally.

It would be interesting to check the wiring if the pickup is fitted with a 4 conductors cable because odd things can happen there.

For instance, I'd check the junction between coils: if the red and white wires are not properly soldered and act like a series capacitor, it might explain what happens.
Unless the two coils are wired out of phase (with black + red or white + green twisted together). That's something that I had to correct at least once these last years.
Unless the pickup has a problem. Does it give a DCR reading? Does its output level drop when the tone pot is lowered?
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The pickups is 2 con (braided wire)

the dcr is about whats stated on the website

the volume goes a little Down when dialing back tone
 
The volume bumping down when you engage the tone indicates that the tone pot is wired 50s. Which is brighter compared to regular.

Also, different guitars sound differently. Unless it sounds really off, there's likely nothing 'broken'. You might want to entertain one of the suggestions instead of writing them all off.
 
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Batman89 said:
the dcr is about whats stated on the website

the volume goes a little Down when dialing back tone
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OK. A tone pot acting like a volume is a way to spot a pickup whose wire is broken and acts capacitively (as a high pass filter) but in such cases, DCR measurements are generally impossible even when the pickup seems to work.

So, I'll insist on what Bill Lawrence allows to understand in the link that I've shared: when resonant frequencies align on each others AND are in an "ice pick" region, a guitar can sound awfully bright even if its component have nothing special separately. More precisely, if the resonant peak of a pickup is exactly on a frequency promoted by the acoustic resonance of the instrument AND if the cab used enhances the very same frequency, this synergy can give extremely insisting treble.

FWIW, I had once to correct the design of a stacked humbucker for Strat because of a similar issue. Without correction and because of aligned resonances, the pickup was creating a HF drone effect absolutely unbearable through a Twin Reverb or JC120. Once modified, it sounded normally.

I've shared in my first post a simple and cheap way to shift the resonant peak of a passive pickup if needed. Do what you want and be happy. :-)
 
I think many of you guys are forgetting these are still low-wind pickups, in the grand scheme of things. Even at 9K and with A2, I'd expect them to be brighter than something like a JB.
 
I think I'd need to hear both guitars demoing the issue before I could contribute any more. The sound and behavior seems very very unusual (I have multiple Les Pauls and have had Slash and A2Ps in them, so I know what they sound like through various amps), but need to hear what 'bright' really means here, and hear exactly what the behavior problems are of turning the knobs to various settings, to determine what the actual problem might be.
 
Some Les Pauls are inherently super bright and surprisingly thin sounding.
Had to pull the Burstbucker Pro bridge out of my '05 Standard.
I put an AT-1 in it and the guitar's still pretty bright.
But now it has extra fatness and that trademark DiMarzio vowel tone to balance with the strong highs.
 
Thanks all for help and recomendation, i will begin the investogation when i am over with the devorce im current in,
i will also make a recording with the tone controls different position from 10 to 1, so you Can hear the brightness before doing anything
 
Mincer said:
I wanna ask...did this guitar have any other pickups in there before the Slash set, and what did they sound like?
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It was the Stock Gibson buckers, which to my ears was were bland souinding, tried to like them the first 3 month i had the guitar but it was meh at best
 
Batman89 said:
It was the Stock Gibson buckers, which to my ears was were bland souinding, tried to like them the first 3 month i had the guitar but it was meh at best
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But other than sounding bland (I agree, here), they didn't sound overtly bright?
 
The Slash can be a bit bright but not harsh or shrill sounding? Never heard that comment about that pickup, especially in a LP? WOuld love to hear a soundclip.
 
I know what A2P in an LP sounds like, and to get the tone in the video, to my ears, it sounds like your amp is plenty bright and tight. I can see Slashes seeming even brighter through that. But I also think adjusting tones on either/or both the guitar and/or the amp would solve it. I can't picture them being so vastly different that you need a different set of pickups altogether. But maybe.
 
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