Slash's new signatures - Gibson SlashBucker

[P.A.Foholic]

Hi!

Dunno if there has already been conversation about this, but it seems Slash has new Gibson sig pups coming along with the new sig guitars.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/nam...-slash-les-pauls-and-j-45-acoustic-signatures

Interesting.

 

[Mincer]

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I saw this. I don't know, and haven't heard what how the relationship between SD and Slash is, but his pickups are still on our website as of this posting. I know these types of deals are more business than personal, but I am surprised he/Gibson had to develop another signature pickup. Keep in mind, his classic LP wasn't a Gibson, and he didn't use any signature gear yet for his classic sound. Unless someone 'in the know' from SD comes on here, what I or anyone else here posts is speculation.

 

[Chistopher]

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I'm guessing Gibson probably approached him as opposed to the other way around.

 

[Aceman]

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Gibson willing to pay whatever it takes.

 

[larryguitar]

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I have to assume it rankles Gibson to have to put Duncan's in one of their flagship models, especially when they sell pickups to the aftermarket in addition to making them for their OEM products.

If I were Gibson (bwahahaha!) I'd have been trying to do this from the start.

Larry

 

[shadowfire90]

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Anything to try and get out of bankruptcy at this point for Gibson will try. At this point who haven't they tried to sue. PRS to Ibanez.

 

[mojosman]

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Maybe it is just my perception, but modern Gibson pickups don't inspire awe in many players eyes. Perhaps, because their guitars are sold to a variety of players, and will be used in a variety of styles of music, that they make pickups that would have tonal qualities that work in as wide a spectrum of musical situations as possible. In other words be all things to all people, which doesn't work. I've owned three Les Pauls and all have ended up with aftermarket pups. I think many guys with specific tone in mind, end up moving on from the stock pickups at some point, as we see the secondary market is certainly selling a lot of pickups. They aren't being bought by guys happy with their guitars tone.

When you look at Gibson Signature Les Pauls, how many can we name that ended up with aftermarket pickups? Billy Gibbons first run of Pearly Gates had SD's. The Slash models, both Gibson and Epiphone. Did the various Gibson Joe Bonamassa models have his SD custom shops in them? I don't think Gibson can be all things to all players, and perhaps partnerships with companies like SD could make their guitars more popular, certainly closer to a players needs and expectations right out of the box. Imagine if the player in a speed metal band, guy in a modern country band, and a guy in a jazzy blues sort of band could each order a Les Paul Standard with the correct pickups for their needs. I think people would embrace that

 

[Rex_Rocker]

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I've always wondered, what's with the whole inner coil/outer coil zebra thing in his pickups?

 

[JMP/HBE]

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DNW .... i have never wanted an EVH or Saul endorsement.

 

[Hsb]

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I've always wondered, what's with the whole inner coil/outer coil zebra thing in his pickups?

From the picts, it only looks like there is one with the zebra coils, rest appear to be black.

 

[ErikH]

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The zebra / reverse zebra looks comes from his original LP that he used for Appetite (and is not a Gibson). His SD sig pickups were done so that current production Les Pauls could sound as close as possible to that old one because he doesn't take it on the road anymore. It's used in the studio only now. Coincidentally, the one of the 4 with the zebra / reverse zebra has the Appetite Burst finish.

 

[crafty]

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TBH...there's nothing about the APH or Slash pickups from Duncan that can't be replicated very easily by Gibson. Using the APH in the original guitar was a complete accident anyway, they were just pickups laying around at the builder's shop and Slash needed the guitar THAT DAY, so he threw them in there. That combo with the Jubilee head made Slash's "signature" sound. It's a terrific sound and I had an APH for years in the bridge of my Strat until I switched to EMG-SAs. Gibson makes very good pickups in the Burstbucker and '57 Classic series, so I think these will work well too. I'm just happy that a signature Gibson is going to be around $3,000 street versus $10,000 to $12,000!

 

[GuitarStv]

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I'm just happy that a signature Gibson is going to be around $3,000 street versus $10,000 to $12,000!

You mean a signature signature Gibson. It was already a Les Paul, which is a signature. Now it's a Slash Les Paul. Signature signature.

 

[dystrust]

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That combo with the Jubilee head made Slash's "signature" sound.

Slash's signature sound was that guitar and SIR #36. The Marshall Jubilee didn't exist in mid/late '86 when Appetite for Destruction was recorded, and Slash didn't start using them live until nearly 2 years later. I don't know how familiar you are with the Marshall Jubilee, but I've been playing them for nearly 20 years and they really don't sound all that similar to Appetite. Use Your Illusion OTOH is a completely different story.

This is also why Slash's latest signature Marshall was essentially an attempt to reverse engineer #36, since no one knows where that amp is these days.

 

[JMP/HBE]

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Slash's signature sound was that guitar and SIR #36. The Marshall Jubilee didn't exist in mid/late '86 when Appetite for Destruction was recorded, and Slash didn't start using them live until nearly 2 years later. I don't know how familiar you are with the Marshall Jubilee, but I've been playing them for nearly 20 years and they really don't sound all that similar to Appetite. Use Your Illusion OTOH is a completely different story.

This is also why Slash's latest signature Marshall was essentially an attempt to reverse engineer #36, since no one knows where that amp is these days.

The Slash AFD was a money grab plain & simple. So far off the beam from the Frank Levi-SIR amps. And those SIR amps were re-worked by Frank after Caswell. Frank Levi had been modding Marshalls since the early 1970's for Billy Squire and alot of others way before the 1980's.
Frank has passed and we lost a good one. RIP
Slash/Joe Bonamassa/George Lynch ect all endosement whores.
Have to be able to separate fact from fiction when it comes to music gear marketing hype.

 

[MichYank]

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Hey, didn't some bonehead from Gibson get on YouTube and rant about other companies making products similar to their products? Isn't this sorta the same thing? How did that go?!

 

[crafty]

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Slash's signature sound was that guitar and SIR #36. The Marshall Jubilee didn't exist in mid/late '86 when Appetite for Destruction was recorded, and Slash didn't start using them live until nearly 2 years later. I don't know how familiar you are with the Marshall Jubilee, but I've been playing them for nearly 20 years and they really don't sound all that similar to Appetite. Use Your Illusion OTOH is a completely different story.

This is also why Slash's latest signature Marshall was essentially an attempt to reverse engineer #36, since no one knows where that amp is these days.

Ah, good to know. I thought I'd read an interview with Slash when the JCM Slash came out in the '90s that he was looking to replicate the Jubilee sound because they'd gone out of production, so I assumed they were used on Appetite as well. Never dawned on me that they were introduced 2 years after the record dropped.

That's the thing about these artist endorsements. The JCM Slash probably came out in '94-'95 or so, and I was just learning to play as a high schooler. GNR was still kind of a big deal even though Alternative was killing the guitar, and Slash was doing his solo thing. I read the interview with Slash and thought, hey, throw an APH in my MIM Strat, save up some money for a JCM Slash (never did), and I'll have it made, you know?

Now I'm just a middle-aged dude who builds and hoards guitars in the basement like a cat lady.

 

[nexion218]

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Can't find no wrong with that. Afterall, they produced the Kirk Hammett signature Flying V (Why not? There were like 2 years of his 40 year carreer when that was his guitar of choice - as he had not much else of decent quality), the highly successful Hendrix signature Gibson Strat ( Jimi was an avid fan of Gibson's legendary Stratocaster model) and then the the Slash signature Appetite Les Paul, a knock-off of Kris Derrig's replica of a Gibson Les Paul. Business as usual at Gibson HQ.

 

[ErikH]

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the Slash signature Appetite Les Paul, a knock-off of Kris Derrig's replica of a Gibson Les Paul.

A clone of a clone of a Gibson. Funny how that is.

Marketing:
Hey, let's make a clone of a guitar that we didn't make but some other dude did that is actually a clone of one we did make! That'll sell like hotcakes because it's this dude who has one.


So, Gibson made a clone of a Hendrix Strat. If Fender made a clone of the Gibson Hendrix Strat, would that be legal? LOL

The whole Slash Appetite Gibsons cracks me up. Yeah, he ended up with a boatload of others and stuff but the fact that Gibson went out of their way to make a clone of a clone of a Les Paul is just hilarious.

 

[dystrust]

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Ah, good to know. I thought I'd read an interview with Slash when the JCM Slash came out in the '90s that he was looking to replicate the Jubilee sound because they'd gone out of production, so I assumed they were used on Appetite as well. Never dawned on me that they were introduced 2 years after the record dropped.

That's the thing about these artist endorsements. The JCM Slash probably came out in '94-'95 or so, and I was just learning to play as a high schooler. GNR was still kind of a big deal even though Alternative was killing the guitar, and Slash was doing his solo thing. I read the interview with Slash and thought, hey, throw an APH in my MIM Strat, save up some money for a JCM Slash (never did), and I'll have it made, you know?

Now I'm just a middle-aged dude who builds and hoards guitars in the basement like a cat lady.

The original Jubilee came out in '87, while Slash started using them in mid-'88, and the JCM Slash came out in 1996. They're cool amps, but I can't say that I sound all that Slash-like, even when playing an LP through one. Unfortunately a Strat will be even farther away from that tone, but probably still cool. Back in the mid-2000s I had a Charvel 25th Anniversary Reissue, and while the stock SD '78 sounded great it didn't sound anything like Slash.

If you're after that tone, I can't recommend that 2525H Mini / Studio Jubilee highly enough. I've had one for 2 1/2 years and it became my #1 amp once I got tubes sorted (the stock ones are pretty bad). Prior to that my #1 was a black tolex '88 Jubilee 2555. The 2555X reissue sounds pretty much identical, but these 100W Jubilees are heavy and STUPID loud. The original ones are also getting to be insanely expensive; I picked my 2555 up for $550 in 2001 before anyone really wanted them. If you're playing by yourself in a smallish room, the Mini gets 80-90% of that tone / mojo without rearranging small objects. In fact they're so close I really can't tell my 2525 & 2555 apart unless I'm swapping cables between the two.