So I built another pedal from a kit...
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
It is a MXR Dist+/DOD 250/and so on with a clean booster of sorts mixed up....buffered and all of that....
It is a MXR Dist+/DOD 250/and so on with a clean booster of sorts mixed up....buffered and all of that....
beaubrummels
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Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
This looks appealing. How many hours was the total build?
This looks appealing. How many hours was the total build?
Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
Well, I took my time..maybe 5-7 total, but no more than 45 min at a time. Those tiny parts fatigue my eyes quickly, and, although I really wanted to get it done, if I worked past that, I know I'd make mistakes. The biggest and most time-consuming task was separating and sorting the resistors so I didn't have to sort through the pile every time I needed one.
Well, I took my time..maybe 5-7 total, but no more than 45 min at a time. Those tiny parts fatigue my eyes quickly, and, although I really wanted to get it done, if I worked past that, I know I'd make mistakes. The biggest and most time-consuming task was separating and sorting the resistors so I didn't have to sort through the pile every time I needed one.
devastone
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Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
All drive boxes are pretty much a variation of a Tube Screamer/SD-1, a Dist+/DS-1, or a Fuzz Face, and for the new "amps in boxes", of the BSIAB. Other than that it's pretty much just changing part values and sometimes adding some features (buffers for the bufferless, removing buffers on the buffered, adding clean blends, adding/subtracting tone controls, adding soft/hard clipping switches, adding diode selection switches, etc...).
All drive boxes are pretty much a variation of a Tube Screamer/SD-1, a Dist+/DS-1, or a Fuzz Face, and for the new "amps in boxes", of the BSIAB. Other than that it's pretty much just changing part values and sometimes adding some features (buffers for the bufferless, removing buffers on the buffered, adding clean blends, adding/subtracting tone controls, adding soft/hard clipping switches, adding diode selection switches, etc...).
PFDarkside
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Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
Don’t forget the Big Muff!
Don’t forget the Big Muff!
devastone
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Which one? I've never used one other than an experiment I built once, but IIRC, there are discrete versions and opamp versions, but both versions use clipping diodes (again, I"m going on memory, don't have time to look it up this morning). They are slight variations/hybrids of the fuzz face/Dist circuits.
Which one? I've never used one other than an experiment I built once, but IIRC, there are discrete versions and opamp versions, but both versions use clipping diodes (again, I"m going on memory, don't have time to look it up this morning). They are slight variations/hybrids of the fuzz face/Dist circuits.
PFDarkside
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I’d say they are distinct enough, 4 transistors instead of 2, clipping diodes instead of none, a very unique tone stack.... and it predated the Dist+ circuit by quite a bit. The OpAmp version was done in the late 70’s, I bet for cost save. It seems everything in the EHX line had changes for cost savings and part availability. Sites like KitRae that detail the mind boggling array of changes they’ve made are pretty amazing. Just like the Tube Screamer it’s a great platform to mod, resistor, cap and diode changes can net some nice changes to the tone.
Maybe you’re out of the pedal game lately, but there are a million Big Muff style pedals now. Almost as many as Tube Screamers.
I’d say they are distinct enough, 4 transistors instead of 2, clipping diodes instead of none, a very unique tone stack.... and it predated the Dist+ circuit by quite a bit. The OpAmp version was done in the late 70’s, I bet for cost save. It seems everything in the EHX line had changes for cost savings and part availability. Sites like KitRae that detail the mind boggling array of changes they’ve made are pretty amazing. Just like the Tube Screamer it’s a great platform to mod, resistor, cap and diode changes can net some nice changes to the tone.
Maybe you’re out of the pedal game lately, but there are a million Big Muff style pedals now. Almost as many as Tube Screamers.
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devastone
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Yes, I know there are many muffs out there, and yes, I haven't been building pedals as a business for a really long time. I'll concede and give the muff its uniqueness and add it to the list of originals.
FWIW, you know an opamp chip is basically just a bunch of discrete components in a box.
This is the schematic of one of the 2 opamps in a JRC4558:
At this point, I would like to apologize for the derailment of the original thread and Mincer's very neat build! Part of the point is that with a few kits, you can build a bunch of variations on some common themes.
Yes, I know there are many muffs out there, and yes, I haven't been building pedals as a business for a really long time. I'll concede and give the muff its uniqueness and add it to the list of originals.
FWIW, you know an opamp chip is basically just a bunch of discrete components in a box.
This is the schematic of one of the 2 opamps in a JRC4558:
At this point, I would like to apologize for the derailment of the original thread and Mincer's very neat build! Part of the point is that with a few kits, you can build a bunch of variations on some common themes.
Blille
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So I built another pedal from a kit...
Yes, I think that was DRM in my NPD thread:
Found this:
“Guild asked Mosrite to build Fuzzrites for them under the Foxey Lady name and in a different housing. According to Eddie Sanner, the designer of the Fuzzrite, the circuit was exactly the same, but Guild said they didn't sound the same, so after 2-3 runs (around 1000 pedals in total) they started looking for a new partner who could build pedals for them.
They found Mike Matthews, who didn't start the Electro-Harmonix brand yet, but he had a circuit and let Aul Instruments build the pedals. One of the techs at Aul, Norman Schwartzman, would become the first Electro-Harmonix employee.
When Mike started the Electro-Harmonix company, the Foxey Lady became a version of the Axis Fuzz, later of the triangle knob and ram's head versions of the Big Muff Pi”
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/guild/foxeylady
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Yes, I think that was DRM in my NPD thread:
Found this:
“Guild asked Mosrite to build Fuzzrites for them under the Foxey Lady name and in a different housing. According to Eddie Sanner, the designer of the Fuzzrite, the circuit was exactly the same, but Guild said they didn't sound the same, so after 2-3 runs (around 1000 pedals in total) they started looking for a new partner who could build pedals for them.
They found Mike Matthews, who didn't start the Electro-Harmonix brand yet, but he had a circuit and let Aul Instruments build the pedals. One of the techs at Aul, Norman Schwartzman, would become the first Electro-Harmonix employee.
When Mike started the Electro-Harmonix company, the Foxey Lady became a version of the Axis Fuzz, later of the triangle knob and ram's head versions of the Big Muff Pi”
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/guild/foxeylady
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TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
Nice work! Way better than I could ever do, for sure.
Nice work! Way better than I could ever do, for sure.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Well yes nothing new in any pedals....just replying to the "unique" circuit....just put together in a clever way...but hardly anything new is going on in there....you can only do so much with those basic circuits....
Well yes nothing new in any pedals....just replying to the "unique" circuit....just put together in a clever way...but hardly anything new is going on in there....you can only do so much with those basic circuits....
DavidRavenMoon
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Re: So I built another pedal from a kit...
The original Foxy Lady was a different circuit with two knobs.
The later ones were rebranded Muffs.
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The original Foxy Lady was a different circuit with two knobs.
The later ones were rebranded Muffs.
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