So what’s the best of the 15 watt/20 watt heads?

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Cool comparison of a vintage Marshall Plexi and a 2061 20 watt...

 
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I swear it sometimes feels like Dan and Mick of That Pedal Show are on these boards!

https://youtu.be/BNgaIfhkdAc


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The only tones I heard in that video that I liked came from the Gretsch at the beginning.

The others were shrill and scrapey sounding.

And that AC15, the way they played it, sounded nothing like the way my AC30 sounded when I played it...even though the guy thought that was a classic AC30 sound.

I dunno about those guys. Be nice if they were better guitarists and had a nicer touch.
 
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Did your AC30 have a master volume, Lew? And which did you prefer, Normal or Top Boost input?




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Did your AC30 have a master volume, Lew? And which did you prefer, Normal or Top Boost input?




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No master volume. It was very loud. Too loud. And too heavy.

But when I could turn it up, and goose the input with a TS808, I felt that I got the best soloing tones of any amp I’ve ever owned.

It was 20 years ago. But I think I liked the Top Boost channel...but maybe it was the normal one.

Sold the amp because I couldn’t afford more than one amp at the time and it was too loud for the church (new thought/non-traditional) gigs I was playing.

I bought it because I loved the sound Buddy Miller got when I saw him with Emmylou Harris at Telluride. But I couldn’t turn mine up loud enough to get those sounds on the gigs I play.
 
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does someone make a brown deluxe in a head? thats what id get. with the right speakers its the best lil marshall ive played though. better than the 18w or 20w marshalls ive tried

an old style ac30 with blues cranked up is a glorious thing! sooo loud though. the master volume ones ive tried havent been the same.
 
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It seems you are a big fan of the Mustang III. Why not grab a V? More Watts but that never hurts.
 
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I’m kind of curious about the head version of the hand wired AC30 in this video. It’s pricey but might be exactly what I’m looking for.

I’d use it with my 2x12 Matchless cab that I loaded with actual 60’s Celestion silver Alnico 12’s.

 
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does someone make a brown deluxe in a head? thats what id get. with the right speakers its the best lil marshall ive played though. better than the 18w or 20w marshalls ive tried

an old style ac30 with blues cranked up is a glorious thing! sooo loud though. the master volume ones ive tried havent been the same.

Had a brown Deluxe and did love the soloing tones. Sold it to the Guy Who Invented Fire a few years ago.

Wasn’t clean enough for me...but the lead tones, when cranked, were wonderful.

Those new handwired Vox AC30 heads might be what I’m looking for...but they’re pricey.

 
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It seems you are a big fan of the Mustang III. Why not grab a V? More Watts but that never hurts.

I am. But mine is starting to act up.
 
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I am. But mine is starting to act up.

If it is < 5 years old Fender will replace it. If you work it might get an X2 head to experiment with while deciding on the best other head.
 
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I did it. Purchased the handwired AC30 head. It has master volume that can be bypassed. Also switchable from 15 watts to 30 watts. Got it for $1000 shipped.

I have some NOS GE EL84’s I’ll put in it that I purchased many years ago from the guy who designed EL84’s for GE. I used them in my AC30 that I sold, but I kept the tubes when I sold it and put the originals back in.

My intuition tells me this is the amp head ive been looking for.

We’ll see.
 
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I did it. Purchased the handwired AC30 head. It has master volume that can be bypassed. Also switchable from 15 watts to 30 watts. Got it for $1000 shipped.

I have some NOS GE EL84’s I’ll put in it that I purchased many years ago from the guy who designed EL84’s for GE. I used them in my AC30 that I sold, but I kept the tubes when I sold it and put the originals back in.

My intuition tells me this is the amp head ive been looking for.

We’ll see.

Glad you reached your decision, Lew - it does sound like it’ll do what you want it to.

I sold my AC30 for the same reasons as you (loud/heavy) and don’t regret doing so - I just NEVER ever got to use it in the way it would sound best.

My Whitney custom amp is based on the AC tone stack but I opted for 15W, so that I can enjoy the power section working. Sounds like the option in your new head will give you similar.

One thing to note: my AC30 was the CC2X (Celestine blues) and it had a treble bleed cap on the Top Boost volume which could end up sounding fizzy. It’s mentioned in this list (C9 cap):

http://www.nzguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30388

Definitely a worthwhile mod on that amp to my ears.

Said, I don’t know if it, or any of the other mods listed, applies to the handwired or not.

Let us know how it turns out.


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Glad you reached your decision, Lew - it does sound like it’ll do what you want it to.

I sold my AC30 for the same reasons as you (loud/heavy) and don’t regret doing so - I just NEVER ever got to use it in the way it would sound best.

My Whitney custom amp is based on the AC tone stack but I opted for 15W, so that I can enjoy the power section working. Sounds like the option in your new head will give you similar.

One thing to note: my AC30 was the CC2X (Celestine blues) and it had a treble bleed cap on the Top Boost volume which could end up sounding fizzy. It’s mentioned in this list (C9 cap):

http://www.nzguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30388

Definitely a worthwhile mod on that amp to my ears.

Said, I don’t know if it, or any of the other mods listed, applies to the handwired or not.

Let us know how it turns out.


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I sure will. And thanks to everyone who commented. Even though I didn’t purchase any of the suggestions, the thread helped me to get clear on what it was I was really looking for....I hope.
 
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Knowing Lew's taste, I'd look into the little Bad Cat heads.
They aren't cheap, but the few models I've tried bridged the Vox/Marshall sound very well. [Edit] Damn, they're EXPENSIVE!

The Orange OR-15 has a nice woody tone. The Tiny Terror has amazing range from clean to highgain.
It's a great amp, but maybe a tad crunchier than Lew would want. I'm honestly confused as to why nobody is snatching up my TT. I'm avoiding plugging into it because I'll change my mind about selling it. I should keep it.
 
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Knowing Lew's taste, I'd look into the little Bad Cat heads.
They aren't cheap, but the few models I've tried bridged the Vox/Marshall sound very well. [Edit] Damn, they're EXPENSIVE!

The Orange OR-15 has a nice woody tone. The Tiny Terror has amazing range from clean to highgain.
It's a great amp, but maybe a tad crunchier than Lew would want. I'm honestly confused as to why nobody is snatching up my TT. I'm avoiding plugging into it because I'll change my mind about selling it. I should keep it.

I thought about it Joe. In fact, that Night Train of yours is what triggered my purchase of this AC30. I’ve missed mine ever since selling it. Replaced it with the Matchless SC30 you recommended but it was a bit grainy sounding compared to my AC30, and as you may remember, I lost most of my stuff 8 years ago to pay medical bills. You guys were a nice help in those times. Now I qualify for Medicare...thank goodness, because my treatment is ongoing and costs thousands every month.
 
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The amp’s on the way, BTW. Should be here this week.
 
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If you're after a good, solid rock amp with lots of gain, I can recommend the 6505MH. I've been using mine in my cover band for a while now and not only does it sound great, it sits great in a mix.
 
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If you're after a good, solid rock amp with lots of gain, I can recommend the 6505MH. I've been using mine in my cover band for a while now and not only does it sound great, it sits great in a mix.

I looked at EVH amps. Not Peaveys tho.

In any case, Vox and/or Marshall tones, both clean and overdriven, is what I was needing. This new Vox AC30 head is doing the trick for me. It’s a tone I’ve been missing ever since selling my Vox AC30 and vintage Marshall’s, and it can do both bedroom and stage. It’s a pretty cool amp.

Beatles, Brian May, Buddy Miller...and my own sounds. They’re all in there.

And my brother Bruce (Mission Amps) gave me an old 1960’s AC30 size Vox two 12 speaker cab for Christmas. No speakers but I’ll put some Celestions in it.
 
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