Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

[MetalManiac]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

yes, jerry. your drunken incoherent posts remind me of the night i lost my virginity.

anyway, Les Pauls from the 80's are ****in bad-ass. keep it...

Why would I be drunk and incoherent if I don;t know the difference between a 79 pancaked Les Paul and and 1980? Why would someone who mistakes a 1980- guitar for a Norlin guitar be automatically" incoherent" Do YOU know the exact differences between a Norlin Paul and a later era paul that has a\the better build quality? I didn't really look it up, but I do have a blue book and I can look it up if you want.There is a substantial price differential and experts agree most Norlins are tone challenged. IIRC this is kinda how we got into it back in 2007 with stuff. If a customer walked into your store and said he thinks a 1980 guitar is a Norlin ear would call him a "drunk Incoherent" person? The years are close enough where its questionable.Being questionable, there is some guilt by association on such a transition guitar that might be reflcted in market price whether its a true Norlin or not, is my point, and I'm not really convinced it ain't a Norlin. You say 80's guitars are awesome..maybe they "all" are, but its close enough to 70's where there would be a reasonable assumption that there may be some quality issues.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

For what it's worth, I always believe in keeping a classic amp over any decent guitar. Guitars are like underwear. A great amp is like a T Shirt or pair of jeans you really love.

 

[some_dude]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

For what it's worth, I always believe in keeping a classic amp over any decent guitar. Guitars are like underwear. A great amp is like a T Shirt or pair of jeans you really love.

+1.

I don't get attached to specific guitars, so they're not such a big deal to me.

Plus, I'd have an easier time finding the money to buy another guitar than I would trying to come up with the cash for another SLO.

 

[formula73]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

There were plenty of Norlin guitars that had great build quality. However, I'm not exactly sure that you're not just typing that stuff to not possibly/not possibly not confuse me.

Because I am.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

+1.

I don't get attached to specific guitars, so they're not such a big deal to me.

Plus, I'd have an easier time finding the money to buy another guitar than I would trying to come up with the cash for another SLO.

I can only speak for myself, but watching a good guitar leaving the stable hurts much less than a good amp. Hanging onto good amps is much higher of a priority.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Gentleman..can we set aside our differences and come together for the good of actual knowledge and learning? I was educated by *this post about Norlin Guitars. I was right about his guitar being the so called "pancake" era Norlin it seems ( although I'm not citing this as conclusive evidence), but wrong in the way I tackled it.
I would still sell the guitar personally unless it has sentimental value and not idolitize it simply cause its a old 1980 guitar, because Gibson made some fantastic later model guitars that have a reputation for being even better in quality, and as I said, a good running expensive amp is not to be taken for granted. I'm not saying anymore that all Norlins don't sound good or anything. Sorry for alluding to that. I'm sure lots of them are great. I'm still not even sure if the OP's guitar actually IS a Norlin.
if it really is a Norlin, please be aware that hios Soldano is just av\bout as valuable as the guitar, so it really is a choice as to whether his guitar just sounds and plays right for him, in which case I'd obviously rethink the equation.
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http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/index.php

 

[bryvincent]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Gentleman..can we set aside our differences and come together for the good of actual knowledge and learning? I was educated by *this post about Norlin Guitars. I was right about his guitar being the so called "pancake" era Norlin it seems ( although I'm not citing this as conclusive evidence), but wrong in the way I tackled it.
I would still sell the guitar personally unless it has sentimental value and not idolitize it simply cause its a old 1980 guitar, because Gibson made some fantastic later model guitars that have a reputation for being even better in quality, and as I said, a good running expensive amp is not to be taken for granted. I'm not saying anymore that all Norlins don't sound good or anything. Sorry for alluding to that. I'm sure lots of them are great. I'm still not even sure if the OP's guitar actually IS a Norlin.
if it really is a Norlin, please be aware that hios Soldano is just av\bout as valuable as the guitar, so it really is a choice as to whether his guitar just sounds and plays right for him, in which case I'd obviously rethink the equation.
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http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/index.php

Norlin owned Gibson until 1986; so the guitar is a Norlin.

 

[formula73]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Norlin owned Gibson until 1986; so the guitar is a Norlin.

That is probably how I should have begun the exchange. :lol:

People love to bash Norlins, but there have been gems and duds from every manufacturer, always. I've got 2 Norlin LPCs and sold my white 05 Custom Shop because it just wasn't as good. That said, my plain old non-CS, USA Traditional Pro is IT. I had a pretty *****in Squier Tele, too.

Just sayin...his 80 might just speak to him like nothing else.

 

[PVFan]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

as usual, I disagree with everyone profoundly and to my core

if it was between my #1 guitar and #1 amp, the amp is gone.

if it was between my #2 guitar and #2 amp, the amp is gone.

if it was between my #3 guitar and #3 amp, the amp is gone.

amps are way easier to replace. Guitars you love are hard to find and sometimes can't be replaced. My #1 can't be replaced, but if it does one day, it will be because I discovered something new, not because I found another similar guitar. I haven't found one like my #1. Not even close. (edit: well there was a Suhr that was close.)

Here's why.

2 identical guitars with consecutive serial #s built from the same tree can sound completely different.

 

[Petrovsk Mizinski]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

For what it's worth, I always believe in keeping a classic amp over any decent guitar. Guitars are like underwear. A great amp is like a T Shirt or pair of jeans you really love.

Truth.
Amps are more important than the guitar, period.
And if you've got something like an SLO-100, you've got yourself easily one of the best modern high gain amps money can buy.
That amp slays regardless of whether it's a live or studio situation.

 

[PVFan]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

you can go down to the store and replace a SLO just like that.

not a guitar.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Keep both, and send the Feds $100 a month for the next two years.

Hear this man, he knows how's supposed to be done.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Jerry, you're not incoherent for assuming the 1980 Les Paul Custom is a Norlin.

Doesnt matter. Its all semantics at this point . If *I think its a Norlin, and I know more than most ..way more...then for all intents and purposes its a Norlin whether it is or not..

^ THAT is goddamn incoherent. "It's a Norlin whether it is or not"..?
Sorry dude but if you're gona be defensive about crazy things you post when you're drunk, maybe you shouldn't post when you're drunk..?:friday:

as usual, I disagree with everyone profoundly and to my core

if it was between my #1 guitar and #1 amp, the amp is gone.

if it was between my #2 guitar and #2 amp, the amp is gone.

if it was between my #3 guitar and #3 amp, the amp is gone.

amps are way easier to replace. Guitars you love are hard to find and sometimes can't be replaced. My #1 can't be replaced, but if it does one day, it will be because I discovered something new, not because I found another similar guitar. I haven't found one like my #1. Not even close. (edit: well there was a Suhr that was close.)

Here's why.

2 identical guitars with consecutive serial #s built from the same tree can sound completely different.

There's so much truth to this it's not even funny...and something working at a big box music retailer has reinforced for me.

I'll try to keep it short, sweet and simple: Not long ago i had two Les Paul Customs...68 Triburst finish. These guitars had the same serial number except on one the last digit was a 6 and on the other the last digit was an 8...meaning they were made the same year, if not the same day. They had similar neck carves (tho one was slightly slimmer) and the same burst pattern finish but the similarities ended there.

One had an awesome, 3-D flame maple top that looked plain from certain directions...the other was a very uninspired flame. The back on the one with the awesome top showcased some incredible grain patterns while the other one just had the tight-grain mahogany you'd expect to see.

The real kicker was that the beautiful one weighed about 12 lbs and the other one was more like 7 or 8.

Contrarily, every Vox Night Train i've pulled out of the box and sold has sounded exactly like every Vox Night Train. Amps are CIRCUITS in boxes.

Truth.
Amps are more important than the guitar, period.
And if you've got something like an SLO-100, you've got yourself easily one of the best modern high gain amps money can buy.
That amp slays regardless of whether it's a live or studio situation.

I don't disagree with you but thinking critically, a dude with one guitar and modeling software can do a lot more in the studio than a dude with a 100-watt hi-gain monster and no decent axe to plug into it. Especially if he's like most forum dwellers and never gets to crank his master volume the way he needs to.

you can go down to the store and replace a SLO just like that.

not a guitar.

Back to my Les Paul story...you can seek out the exact same model and year and find damn near the same serial number and still have a completely different feeling and sounding Les Paul...but I'd venture a guess that a Soldano SLO100 produced today is gona have the same circuit, components, and tone as the one you bought however long ago you bought it.

With all the good modeling amps available these days and Mike Soldano offering great all-tube amps from Jet City on the cheapcheap, i have a hard time justiftying keeping a big expensive head to plug your cheap leftover guitars into...if you have any cheap guitars left over.

 

[gmcelroy]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Keep both, and send the Feds $100 a month for the next two years.

This exact thought occurred to me however after talking with the IRS they will do a repayment plan but here's the kicker...there is a 5% interest charge that is compounded monthly on the balance! This is not an option!

 

[gmcelroy]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Here is why I am having a difficult time deciding which one to let go:

Within the past 20 years I have owned 8 Gibson Les Pauls (not all at the same time), Gibson Les Paul quality in my experience truly does vary quite a bit! This Les Paul has the nicest neck I have ever played on a Les Paul....straight as an arrow, fast action and a great neck angle but the guitar's resonance is probably just "average"...nothing that jumps out at you but not a dog either. The guitar is a Norlin but without the pancake body. As far as sentimental value it holds maybe a little bit because it's similar to my first Les Paul that my dad helped me buy in 1989 at a pawn shop and I stupidly sold it. I have owned this guitar for a couple of years.

The Soldano I bought about a year and a half ago and has truly been the best amp I have owned. Before I bought the Soldano I had been buying and selling amps right and left initially being happy with them but after a few months finding myself looking for something else. Once I bought the Soldano I can honestly say that I have had absolutely zero desire to buy another amp or even look at other amps! With the Soldano I can plug a Les Paul in and then change to Strat withought having to make major eq/gain adjustments and it still sounds awesome! It is the first amp I have ever owned that is not lacking in any area to my ears.

I do have a few other guitars and amps to play but selling them is not an option due to sentimental reasons. I couple of these guitars blows the Les Paul away in the tone and body resonance department but none of the amps hold a candle to the Soldano!

 

[Bass_Medic_05]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

The SLO is probably worth more and easier to replace (assuming the Gibby is a keeper)

+2 It stinks that you have to sell either of them. (Soldano SLO100)

 

[gmcelroy]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

+2 It stinks that you have to sell either of them. (Soldano SLO100)

Tell me about it! I have already liquidated a good part of my gear for the IRS and have gotten down to the "oh, sh*t I'm going to have to to sell something that I know I am probably going to regret" point!

 

[John_L]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

The Soldano amps are easier to replace and live with out.

 

[jcthejester13]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Hold up several different liquor stores in several different towns.

Keep both.

Pay off your debt.

Problem solved.

 

[marvelous_seven]

Re: Soldano SLO100 or 1980 Gibson Les Paul Custom

Didn't Jerry get banned?

Could someone explain to me why is he get banned?

I noticed that Jessie Samler and DeadSkinSlayer are banned too,what's up with these guys?

To the OP:
Sell both,and keep filling your load so when your next GAS come you never had any problems anymore.

Just my 2 cents.