Solfeggio lesson attempt. Bach exercise

nuntius

Boogeyman of Tone
Alright, well first of all, apologies that I couldn't talk over the slow version... I wanted to talk over the various parts and break them down but my camera only does 45 second vids and the file size is 11mb in total (fast + slow parts) already. If anyone really wants I could do individual breakdowns but I'll do my best to run through.

It's a Bach piece... The first section is correct, I read the sheet music for it (it's a piano piece) and I did my best to find hte easiest way to play it on guitar. After the 22nd fret bend I gave up reading hte music and did the rest by ear; even if it's not right it's still a good exercise IMO.

This exercise is for picking accuracy and you should use a clean tone, and try and keep things even and clean... Even if I didn't :laugh2:

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I'll try and do a fingering run through...... :E

Alright, for the first C minor arpeggio, you're going to want to flatten your pinky to get the 10th frets on the A + D strings.

That will let you get your second finger ready to get the 8th on G. Note the 9th on D is played with first finger to get yourself in the right position for the next arpeggio.

Again, flatten your pinky for the two notes (12th on D + G).

On the next arpeggio, use your 3rd finger on the 12th on G and your pinky on the 13th on B.

And the next lick, use 2nd finger, 1st finger on 11th - 10th E, 13th-12th B as you go down the scale.

Note after you've played the C note (15th fret A) use your first finger to play the 12th and 13th frets on D.

Next points to note would be again flattening your pinky to play the 17th on D + G.

Again, use the fingering 2nd, 1st (on both strings) for 16th-15th B, and 17th 16th G.

On the descending lick that follows on the B string; 20 = pinky, 18 = 2nd finger, 16=1st finger, 15=1st finger, then the next 16=2nd finger.

After the 22nd fret bend on the E string (using pinky) 20= 2nd finger, and here's an annoying bit (couldn't find an easier way) 19=1st finger 17=1st finger 15=1st finger.

For the 1st descending Cminor arpeggio that follows, use this fingering =

20th E = pinky
15th E = 1st finger
16th B = 2nd finger
17th G = 3rd finger
17th D = 2nd finger
15th E = 1st finger

And that will leave you to use your 2nd finger to play the 16th on the high E again...


Man... I'm a really sh!te teacher :laugh2:

Well, I hope you get more from the tab than from my explanation (attempt)
 
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Well, the time it took me to write that (I've read it back and it's pretty crap :laugh2: ) I could have probably done the individual parts... :smack:
 
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Nuntius! You rawx, man. My girlfriend plays that on piano, so now I can totally surprise her with it on GUITAH!
 
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Biu said:
Nuntius! You rawx, man. My girlfriend plays that on piano, so now I can totally surprise her with it on GUITAH!

Biu, I love your girlfriend.

I wish I could play it on piano :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell:
 
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dude, I would kill for fingers like yours....damn you...lol..I have ****tail sausages for fingers =D
 
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Did I mention that you piss me off? :) Nuni, that was waaaay cool. Looked very effortless there, and that's always impressive. Just a few comments:

1. Is that the SD forum on the computer in the background?
2. The devil horns at the end was a great touch!
3. We should probably clarify that you are playing in the music room and not your mum's bedroom. Irregardless, the drapes are very nice. :laugh2:

Nice work!

Oh, one last thing. How did you post the video?
 
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JammerMatt said:
Did I mention that you piss me off? :) Nuni, that was waaaay cool. Looked very effortless there, and that's always impressive. Just a few comments:

1. Is that the SD forum on the computer in the background?

Of course :)

2. We should probably clarify that you are playing in the music room and not your mum's bedroom. Irregardless, the drapes are very nice. :laugh2:

Yes, we should, and shall. :laugh2: This was deffinately the music room :D

Nice work!

Oh, one last thing. How did you post the video?

A friend of mine owns the site it's hosted on, so he let me stick it up :)
 
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nuntius said:
Biu, I love your girlfriend.

I wish I could play it on piano :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell:
:dance: :) :) :) :dance:
Is it just my girlfriend, or is the piano version INSANELY-INSANELY-INSANELY fast?!
 
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Biu said:
:dance: :) :) :) :dance:
Is it just my girlfriend, or is the piano version INSANELY-INSANELY-INSANELY fast?!

Yep. Well, I guess it's as fast as you can play it evenly I guess...

Although it's probably actually easier to play it fast on piano as you use two hands and cross over. On guitar it's really hard to get it even and precisely picked without hitting too many open strings or clicked notes :smack:
 
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lol that song sounds interesting.. I can maybe play that on bass... or... no wait... those 22s at the are making problems cause even if i go down one string (it's a 5 String Bass) I can't get that high up :( Maybe I can improvise that part a bit
 
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That was great, always totally blown away by your dexterity - I couldn't tell how high or low your action was in the vid but it looked like you were hadrly touching the strings.

Fancy viding something brutal from G n' R or VR to get us all rocking?!??!
 
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Jaganath said:
That was great, always totally blown away by your dexterity - I couldn't tell how high or low your action was in the vid but it looked like you were hadrly touching the strings.

Fancy viding something brutal from G n' R or VR to get us all rocking?!??!

That's just the way I play, I only really dig in with my hands when I need to bend a note or get some vibrato. My action is medium/high I'd say, and I use 10s. I like a bit of tension, because I mostly play acoustic. I can't find a bloody ruler atm, otherwise I'd measure it properly for you! :laugh2: To be honest, my action is a little lower than what it was this time last year, as I was finding it too hard to get wider vibrato (which I had previously neglected quite a bit)

But, here's a vid of me jamming on my acoustic I just recorded to show you what I mean about only digging in when I need to manipulate the strings. I can't play the full piece though, because of fret acess and theres only 21 frets. Don't take the pi$$ outa my foot tapping - I do it randomly when I improvise :laugh2: The action on my acoustic, is similar to my electric one, and the strings are 11s. I would deffinately not call the action high for an acoustic guitar, judging by some of the acoustics you see in shops :smack: . But since it's my practise guitar, I need to be able to play electric stuff on it without destroying my hand.

No comments on what I'm wearing. I haven't arsed myself to get dressed yet, so I just pulled a coat on. It's the holidays so why bother :D


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BMD6Y7Y3HIVV2JUINERUDT9CE


I'll see what Guns n Roses I can learn. :)
 
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Cool stuff, posting videos is so much better than meer recordings, i would much appreciate more vids if possible, like jaganath says, some GnR would be cool.
 
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Thatrs great Nuntius.. Not to sound condescending, but damn I'm so proud of kids like you. there is hope that there will be a new generation of good players thanks to you guys.

So which Bach piece is that from, I may have the complete score I could post for everyone. Its great, but too short!
 
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It's just called "Solfeggio" and it's by Carl Phillip Emanuel Bach, not JS Bach. I think that was his son

You're right, it's not the complete version, I stopped after the arpeggios which aren't correct by the score :smack:
 
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nuntius said:
It's just called "Solfeggio" and it's by Carl Phillip Emanuel Bach, not JS Bach. I think that was his son
** Puts on scholarly bifocal glasses **
Actually, the name Bach was a name that was given to the people who wrote music for Germany's church in state back in day. So, not all of the Bachs are necessarily related, and there are more Bachs than just the famous two (CPB and JSB) ...
If you were concripted to write music for the church or an army in 17th cent. Germany, likely your pen name would become Nuntius Bach.
 
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Man, haven't been here for a while, but you sure didn't waste your time nuntius.

It looks sooooo easy. I read somewhere that "natural" players have very little tension in the arms, thus their dexterity. You make this sound true. You seem to hardly pick and touch the strings.

Everytime I try to go faster I cramp everywhere, to the point where I can't speed up. I constently have to work on lowering the tension in my hands, arms and shoulders. Obviously not a probelm for you :)

We used to hear how great you can play, now we see it and it's even more amazing! Keep it up Max!
 
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