Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

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My Epi Les Paul Trad Pro II does not have the maple cap/veneer like the Plus Top Pro. It’s all mahogany.

My LP does have a very warm tone plus it has a beefy neck. Am I missing the boat not having the maple cap? I’m considering returning it.




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Re: Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

Never get rid of a guitar because of the wood. There are plenty of other reasons, but if the only thing you don't like is the tree it came from, keep it.
 
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How long have you been playing and what LP sound do you think you want?

Some guitars are a keeper, and some aren't, and the species of wood used to make this evaluation means zilch.

Don't get rid of anything until you know what the scoop on a guitar really is.
 
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When I swap back and forth between the LP and the SG, I much prefer the slim taper neck on the SG. The chunky 50s neck on the LP is nice and I have long fingers but there’s just something “awkward” about it.


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You may want to swap it the guitar for one with the neck you like

I have a slim C on my Epiphone Florentine
And a slim D on my Epiphone Hummingbird
My Gibson Les Paul has a slim D
My Vanity Signature LP has a Slim D

My MIM strat just felt huge compared
Got rid of the guitar

I've played strats for years but I just couldn't play that one

Swap the guitar for one with the neck you want
 
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Let it soak a while, I was the same way for about 15 years. After you've been playing long enough your ear will develop to where it picks things up that are tonally unique to build and individual guitar, nuance stuff.

For me a thick neck guitar, IF the neck is stiff, has a higher degree of beefiness to it's tone and can be some of the best sounding guitars IF that is a tone you want. If it's truly baseball bat thick your hands may not get use to it but the more stuff you play the better you'll get at finding guitars that have it, some of those will need a beefy tone and some thick necks don't have it and some will in spades. Your ear is the best determiner but fresh ears can't always hear it.
 
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There's a test for neck stiffness. It doesn't always indicate superior tone, but they do tend to lean towards it. Guitars that have it will stay in tune and hold set-ups better for sure though.

Pluck the low E open and let it ring, then bend the G up a step at the 9th fret without plucking it, only the E is still being heard. If the E drops in pitch the neck is floppy, it there is very little to no drop in pitch you have a good candidate for a nice sounding thicker tone.

P.S. keep your thumb in tight to a normal playing position, don't test with it down under the 4th fret etc...
 
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So ultimately it’s the neck. I tried to adapt to the big neck but I much prefer the slim taper neck.


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Re: Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

It's a big part of it, I have a 60's neck LP that is a hair too small, but it's much stiffer than it should be. I knew the guitar was a tone king when I played it new at the store, but didn't realize why until many years later that it's stiffness was a significant part of the whole tone.

Make no mistake though more wood does influence tone, comfort is important to me but I will make concessions for a great sounding guitar.
 
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Actually, some of the all-mahogany Les Paul Customs 40+ years ago were some of my favorite guitar sounds. If you don't like the neck, however, I wouldn't keep it.
 
Re: Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

Picked up a cherry sunburst Plus Top Pro. Pics later but the neck is much better.


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Re: Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

Not liking the neck is a much different issue than having or not having the cap. Some the large Epi neck profiles are a bit odd especially as you go up the neck. There are plenty of good LP style guitars out there with necks that'll suit you better I am sure.
 
Re: Solid Mahogany Les Paul?

There's a test for neck stiffness. It doesn't always indicate superior tone, but they do tend to lean towards it. Guitars that have it will stay in tune and hold set-ups better for sure though.

Pluck the low E open and let it ring, then bend the G up a step at the 9th fret without plucking it, only the E is still being heard. If the E drops in pitch the neck is floppy, it there is very little to no drop in pitch you have a good candidate for a nice sounding thicker tone.

P.S. keep your thumb in tight to a normal playing position, don't test with it down under the 4th fret etc...

I did this with my new GM LP and had no pitch drop on the low E at all. Cool little test.
 
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An alternative to the above test is to lean the headstock against something, this also works for guitars with floating tremolos.
 
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I chose this over the honey burst because of the dark fret board.


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Hope you like the new guitar, shes a beaut!! A big difference in Epi vs. Gibson is the Gibson has a much thicker cap. Not sure if the maple on an Epi is thick enough to change the tone much. Get the neck you want to play and have at er!!
 
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