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I can't for the life of me, imagine why anyone would want to pay the price for the custom shop to do a JB wind. Or why anyone would want to pay for two JB's just to get one. Or even why anyone would want to pay for just one JB. There are sooo many other much better sounding pups available.

Ha! Same here. It was just never my thing.
 
Just my opinion, but the mental midget at the Patent Office who approved this should have been shot. Larry DiMarzio could NOT have seriously described how two coils the same color could be significantly different than coils of differing colors to someone with functioning gray matter? Maybe he just bribed the guy?

Of course, I remember reading that there were 17 patents assigned to humbucking pickups after Seth Lover submitted his. How did that happen?

You really have to wonder what the hell the qualifications are to get a patent clerk job, or how to become the person who determines those qualifications......
Probably depends upon where you stick your nose and how deeply.

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I can't for the life of me, imagine why anyone would want to pay the price for the custom shop to do a JB wind. Or why anyone would want to pay for two JB's just to get one. Or even why anyone would want to pay for just one JB. There are sooo many other much better sounding pups available.
I still can't understand the obsession with double creme bobbins.

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If it's acceptable for Dmz to trademark double cream, then why can't a different maker trademark double black?
 
This has to do with two, and only two things:

#1 Larry is a dooshrocket
#2 Duncan needs to grow a set. All kinds of people make double cream pickups.
 
#2 Duncan needs to grow a set. All kinds of people make double cream pickups.

Evan Skopp once touched on this subject lightly. They did take DMZ to court, and lost. Later, he commented that he realized what they did wrong in presenting their case. A different day, a different judge . . . who knows.
 
I am guessing none of us has the full true story on this.


People are out there making double cream pickups. That is all the story that needs made. It can be done. Duncan Customers want it done. Educate me or I'm buying DiMarzio when the aesthetic is important.
 
That said - I DID bookmark some cheap double creams for exactly that purpose (not DiMarzio) but a custom rewind bed.
 
People are out there making double cream pickups. That is all the story that needs made. It can be done. Duncan Customers want it done. Educate me or I'm buying DiMarzio when the aesthetic is important.

Maybe there was an agreement between companies? I have no idea.
 
To be honest, when I was younger and clueless, I did assume that any double-cream humbucker I saw was Dimarzio, so there’s definitely some basis for their claim. I’m lucky though, in that if I wanted double-cream by a different manufacturer, I could get Oil City and not have to worry about international shipping.
 
See, from a distance I just thought exposed bobbins were Gibsons with the covers off. A double row of hex heads was the only thing that said ‘DiMarzio’ to me. So their claim of the cream aesthetic being central to their brand in the public eye just wasn’t entirely true.
 
And wasn’t that DiMarzio’s case? They are superior pickups and they are identified by double cream - so a NEW guitar player might think double C = DMZ.

But to the replacement pickup community TODAY - almost every consumer knows Duncan, BareKnuckle, GFS, EMG, FRalin, and others.

So - moot point
 
Bare Knuckle are British and GFS are made by Artec, right?
Duncan don’t sell double cream, I’ve never seen any by EMG, and don’t know enough about Fralin.
Small-scale sales would be like people selling unofficial merchandise for bands and sports teams- the trademark holder will go after them where practical, but may not stop everything, so smaller US-based manufacturers might get away with it.
 
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