Someone recomend a 5 string bass

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I too have a Music Man 5 string Sting Ray. It's the shizznit! The B string is very defined as I believe the scale length is a bit longer on the MM Stingray. Plus, despite it having only one pickup, it's very versatile with the three way switch (single coil, parallel and series) and the active eq. I use mine all the time in the studio and it never lets me down.
 
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the_Chris said:
Music Man is supposed to be fantastic.

I know a local band where the bassist uses a Peavey Cirrus and it sounds great.

Yeah, my friend's Cirrus is a really nice bass. He says it might actually be a little nice to play than his Warwick, despite the fact that the Warwick cos twice as much.

Both his basses sound fantastic though. The Warwick has some awesome sounds and incredible build quality.
 
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Music Man Sting Ray all the way! I have an OLP 4 string Sting ray copy. It is pretty good in stock form, but so much better when you put active electronics in it. I love the tone i can get out of it. I put a seymour duncan basslines pup in it. I highly recommend a Ernie Ball Sting Ray 5 string..if you have the cash. I think some Ibanez's are pretty good too.
 
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my good freind managed to pick up a custom made Elrick bass used for about $1700. A bit out of your pricerange, but.... that is a phenomenal bass, it rivaled all of the much more expensive basses he tried out. And he gets plenty of low B clarity.
 
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I'm going to be selling more of these soon. My teacher has been making them for 15 years. I think they are some of the best basses made, the design is ingenious. He makes 5-6 string basses and may start a new design, a singlecut model. They are entirely neck through with EMG actives. I could probably get one for you for around $1,100 even though they are worth upwards of 3 grand or more. Nothing like having a handbuilt bass. Let me know if you want some more info. Within four weeks Geoff could probably make one just for you.
 
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Xero, those are just plain sick. I love the natural binding on the thing. Not that it looks unplayable, I'm sure it's wonderful, but it has so much class it looks like it may almost cross into the realm of sculpture. Beautiful and simple instrument. Sounds perfect for me.

Now if I only had a few grand lying around...
 
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Ken said:
Xero, those are just plain sick. I love the natural binding on the thing. Not that it looks unplayable, I'm sure it's wonderful, but it has so much class it looks like it may almost cross into the realm of sculpture. Beautiful and simple instrument. Sounds perfect for me.

Now if I only had a few grand lying around...

yeah man those things are awesome. It's all he goes over it with is a clear satin finish. The different colors are the layers of wood that are sandwiched together. The neck has a squarish profile to it, but it's unbelievably comfortable and not fatiguing to play. These don't have a truss rod either, he's never had a neck go out of adjustment on him in 10 years he told me, on his 6 string bass no less that he uses every day. I think it's due to the multiple layers of wood that are pressed vertically that makes the neck so rigid, not to mention it's neck through, so it's really one big chunk of wood. A friend of mine just bought one and he loves the damn thing. He ownes an Ibanez Ergodyne 5 string and another fretless 4 too. It's amazing how good this Geoff Smith bass is. I'm not just giving a sales pitch, I'm just surprised he doesn't sell outside of the local area and make some real money with them. That's why I got involved, I'm going to start selling his stuff over the next few months/weeks.
 
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kaknight said:
Perhaps I'm daft, but how can a reverse headstock help this situation? It seems to me that there would be no significant difference. why not just get some "heavy bottom" bass strings. here is my logic (and I am really just shooting in the dark, so please correct me):

1) string tension is a function of three things a) scale of neck b) thickness of string c) note the string is tuned to

2) any increase in string thickness requires more tension to tune to the same note (that's why it's so dang hard to bend jazz guitar strings)

3) any increase in scale length would increase the tension necessary to tune to the same note (longer waves). this seems very difficult to do

4) as the scale of a guitar is a function of where the strings mount (ie bridge and nut), and tension on the string is constant for any scale length on a given string it shouldn't matter how much is above the nut before you get to the machine head. Essentially, you need a certain amount of tension for a string that is a certain length to produce a certain note. for example: say we need 30lbs of tension on a string so that it plays a low e when out hit the open string. There is still 30lbs of tension on the string when you fret the 5th fret producing an "a" note. The distance is just shorter.

I could get a guitar string 10ft long, and as long as I put 30lbs of tension on it, and put it onto a guitar with the bridge and nut at that standard scale it would still play a low e (if you can picture it, think of a guitar that is 10ft long and there is a capo where the nut would normally be. 30lbs of tension would still produce a low "e" note as long as the capo was at the same spot as a nut would be on a regular guitar.

On the other hand, if you put on some fat bottom strings you would have to up the tension on the strings (quite a bit actually) in order to get your low "e" note. Now that added tension should stop the flubber.
Compared to the scale of the neck, the position of the tuners really doesn't affect it as much - think of a reverse headstock strat, there will be more tension on the low e, simply because of the distance. In asking around at the local guitar shop, apparently getting a 35 inch scale neck is more important than much of anything. of the two they had in the 35 inch scale, i liked a Tobias 5 string the best, as far as the tension was, however it still didn't seem like enough. Currently, i'm also kicking around the idea of getting an extra long scale 4 string bass, like a Gibson Thunderbird, since they have a reverse headstock arrangement, and just tuning it to B-E-A-D. Not to mention that i could also do a typical E-A-D-G, and also not to mention that i'd like to replace the one i sold. I think i'm just going to sit on the idea for a while, and try to make up my indecisive mind.
 
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I feel I should make a few things clear.

Anything that is beyond the bridge or the nut does not affect on how tight the string actually is. If you want the string actually to be tighter, you have to go for the 35" scale. Which is not bad, not bad at all.

Perhaps even more important than that is how tight the B-string FEELS. Some things that have a make on this are:
a) The taper on the bridge. Try taper wound B-string, night and day.
b) Neck. The neck has to be made solid. Not many manufacturers are able to do this. Better chance finding one from handcrafted custom made instruments.
c) Bridge has to be of good quality.
d) Groove Tubes Fatfinger does some good on this also. Check it out:
http://groovetubes.com/product.cfm?Product_ID=1202

Depending on your budget, I would start checking out 35" basses from MTD, Ibanez, Carvin, ... Lakland Skyline perhaps?
 
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look out for a used washburn XB-500- thats my 5 string, totally happy with it

(discontinued, but a beautiful instrument)
 
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G&L, builds some great basses. They currently build two 5 string basses, the L-1500 (Single Humbucker Pickup), and L-2500 (Dual Humbucker Pickup). In the late 80's, or early 90's they built one called the L-5000, it had a P-bass style pickup in it. L-5000's are kind of rare, they only made 400 of them.

Sprinter
 
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Sorry but what is 'tapered'?

Keep this discussion alive, I'm sort of having the same problem with my bass :S
 
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