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80's_Metal

80's_Metal

Underglazed Hair Metalologist
Just got my hands on a 1960ax. Loaded with 25w greenback reissues. Sounds good, but! A little flubby at high volume chugga chugga.

I'm considering swapping speakers out.

In my other cab I have V30'S and G12 T-75'S. I love that combo. It's my favorite. But I am thinking of going a bit different tonal direction. I like grit and not too dark!

I've listened to 30 videos today comparing speaker after speaker on YouTube etc.
I have really liked the eminence man o war, the wgs reaper, and the celestion KT 100 so far.

I have experience with Texas heat, swamp thang, wgs veterans, and previously listed celestions, and other celestions.

Here is a sample of the music I play for your reference:



I'm ok to mix the cabinet, but no further than 2 pairs. Also needs to be higher wattage rather than lower. Just my thoughts.

What are your suggestions?
 
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Why don't you just go back to the Texas Heat/Swamp Thang combination?

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Might want to look at the WGS Retro 30 or the ET 60. I found the Vet 30 to be VERY dark and dull sounding but really like the Retro and the ET for high gain stuff. Also the Celestian Creamback 65 and the G12 H 30's are very nice.
Clip from this morning of my Purple Carvin DC 127 through the PRS MT 15 pushing a Fender 2 /12 miced loaded with WGS Retro 30's.
 
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Not a fan of the Man O War, has too much high end sizzle which I wasn't a fan of. But V30s and metal you cant go wrong
 
I'm actually leaning towards k100 and manowars.

i like sizzle for the most part, unless it gets crazy.

Thinking the k100 will be a touch darker and the manowars brighter, might sound good together.

I'm thinking the k100 will be similar to my T-75'S but different enough, and the manowars will be a touch brighter than the V30'S.... Anyone think that's right or wrong? One thing for certain, it'll get loud af!
 
How about this combo: EVM 12L with the Celestion Classic Lead (Lead 80)?

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I like the creambacks in a Marshall I like the 65. But I put a 75 in a peavey 6505 plus combo and it sounded real good. It tamed some of the harshness and smoothed it out. It kind of made it sound like the dsl40 with creamback 65 but a little meaner and fuller EQ.
 
I think Man O Wars are attrocious-sounding. Fizzy, icepicky, hollow, ratty... you name it, LOL. In general, I feel their line of British-voiced speakers sound alright.. until you compare them to actual Celestions. There's always something off with them, JMO. I'd still like to try their CV-75, though.

I have a pair of Creamback H-75's in my Marshall cab that I love both in the room and mic'd up. They have the same low-mid heft as Mesa UK Vintage 30, but more aggression and sizzle up top.
 
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My favorite is GT75s. An a 10band EQ. Besides how the speakers perform at the boundary conditions, they mostly are different because of EQ. The 75s are some of the more hi-fi speakers.
 
To be honest with you man my favorite speaker ever now is a Creamback H75.

I spent a LONG time listening to tons of speaker comparison videos and took a chance on a new Mesa 2x12 loaded with h75 Creambacks, the speakers are absolutely killer.

They are basically like greenbacks but higher wattage and don't flub out, and sound more aggressive to me. They aren't as ear piercing as V30's and have a smoothed out high end but the midrange is heavy and colorful, with a thick bottom end but not loose and out of control like with 70/80's or sometimes g12-t75's. Also they are insanely easy to mic up.
 
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To be honest with you man my favorite speaker ever now is a Creamback H75.

I spent a LONG time listening to tons of speaker comparison videos and took a chance on a new Mesa 2x12 loaded with h75 Creambacks, the speakers are absolutely killer.

They are basically like greenbacks but higher wattage and don't flub out, and sound more aggressive to me. They aren't as ear piercing as V30's and have a smoothed out high end but the midrange is heavy and colorful, with a thick bottom end but not loose and out of control like with 70/80's or sometimes g12-t75's. Also they are insanely easy to mic up.
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I agree!

I'm not sure about the smoothed high-end, though. They've got some sizzle up top, but agreed, they're not as piercing as V30's. Their high-end is more "sizzly" than "icepicky", but they've still got some nice detail up top.

They do mic up great!
 
I always wanted an alnico, hemp cone speaker for my blackstar.

But I cant afford it, until I'm 35. (five years from now)....

In that time, i guess the stock speaker is worn in like a pair of old jeans; and gives me what I need.

Honestly, I have no clue about speakers; other than that I prefer Alnico magnet ones; hemp coned ones-

and that the old JBL Studio 200w 12" speaker in my old Marshall was truly beautiful sounding.

best wishes.

-Erl
 
For tight metal I think ceramic speakers are the way to go rather than alnico.

I'm a celestion snob and just keep in mind, as you may know, there are I think 4 different "V30" speakers by celestion if I recall correctly but if I'm wrong it doesn't matter because the original is the best:
-marshall vintage by celestion. These are the original. My fave. Exclusive to Marshall only. You cannot buy them from anyone other than marshall. Huge H magnet stands for heavy.
-mesa exclusive v30. More low mids.
-v30 from celestion. UK made.
-v30 from celestion. Chinese made.

The original vintage is slash's speaker of choice. It's very transparent and never loses control at higher volumes. It doesn't color or alter the guitar tone. The EQ is also just right to cut through the band mix. If you make a mistake playing it will be heard.

The creamback 75s are on my radar for clean rich mid clean jingle jangle. I'd be surprised if they're good for metal.
 
80's_Metal said:
Just got my hands on a 1960ax. Loaded with 25w greenback reissues. Sounds good, but! A little flubby at high volume chugga chugga.

I'm considering swapping speakers out.

In my other cab I have V30'S and G12 T-75'S. I love that combo. It's my favorite. But I am thinking of going a bit different tonal direction. I like grit and not too dark!

I've listened to 30 videos today comparing speaker after speaker on YouTube etc.
I have really liked the eminence man o war, the wgs reaper, and the celestion KT 100 so far.

I have experience with Texas heat, swamp thang, wgs veterans, and previously listed celestions, and other celestions.

Here is a sample of the music I play for your reference:



I'm ok to mix the cabinet, but no further than 2 pairs. Also needs to be higher wattage rather than lower. Just my thoughts.

What are your suggestions?
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Have you thought about mixing the Greenbacks with the V30 and 12T-75, like 2 Greenbacks with one of each of the others, in the same cab? Because the overall mix sounds killer.
 
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