Mikelamury
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Hey guys Its time to get a cab and I was just wondering what the difference is between Celestion vintage 30 and seventy 80 speakers? If anyone can educate me it would be greatly appreciated.
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Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Both are great speakers in my experience, the 30s are a bit warmer. They also have more sensitivity making them a very efficient speaker. However, the Seventy 80s sound amazing in my Fender cab. They have a great mid-range push and a lot of thump in the bass.
Harley Benton does a 2x12 cab loaded with 30's for $222, not sure what they would hit you for shipping.
https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_benton_g212_vintage.htm
Harley Benton does a 2x12 cab loaded with 30's for $222, not sure what they would hit you for shipping.
https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_benton_g212_vintage.htm
NegativeEase
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Mikelamury
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Wow, Securb is right. Only $78 for shipping comes out to $307 and some change for the vertical 2x12 shipped.Is it possible to have real vintage 30's in it for that price or do you think they are knock offs or what? Anyone with experience with these please chime in.
Rex_Rocker
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They are not knock offs. They are the real deal. They just buy them in bulk and can get cheaper prices because of that.
The cabs are built OK. Not in the same league as Mesa and whatnot, but they do the job.
The cabs are built OK. Not in the same league as Mesa and whatnot, but they do the job.
GuitarStv
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I could never warm up to 70/80s - too fizzy up high with gain and kinda flat/bland sounding for the clean sounds I like. They're not bad but never really wowed me.
V30s are some of my favorite guitar speakers. Very versatile, with a character that you'll recognize from a lot of different recordings. The v30s have an upper midrange thing going on that doesn't work with all setups. They really shine in closed back cabs IMO.
V30s are some of my favorite guitar speakers. Very versatile, with a character that you'll recognize from a lot of different recordings. The v30s have an upper midrange thing going on that doesn't work with all setups. They really shine in closed back cabs IMO.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
No, a V30 is a V30. Celestion would rename and relabel them if they were a different speaker. The cabs are plywood; does that matter? I don't know. It is also cool that they are mono/stereo.
Not sure how Harley Benton pumps out such quality stuff at their prices. This is a great deal if the cab is anywhere as good as their guitars.
NegativeEase
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I find the higher wattage more scooped or full range speakers work better with Fender style amps and open back arrangements, and create too much fizz often with the Marshall/higher gain stuff wheras a V30 or Greenback tames that high gain effect.
NegativeEase
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Sure no argument when discussing all the options -my statement was in general you'll find the more full range and scooped speakers less agreeable with British style high gain.
ALWAYS exceptions -especially when you go down the WGS catalog and other smaller speaker company rabbit holes
devastone
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I always thought the 70/80s were kind of bland, but V30s were too pushed in the mids (granted, I haven't tried them in a long time). I have a CL80 in my 1-12 cab that I like pretty well, but I haven't had a chance to push it. They are all good speakers, just a matter of taste, or lack thereof (j/k).
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
I would imagine that is due more to the availability of raw products over the years than speaker design. I know in the late 60's/early 70s, Celestion changed their speaker cone supplier, and the sound of the speakers changed dramatically. I wouldn't say good or bad, but definitely different. As you said, they are all great-sounding speakers.
Demanic
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70/80's work well paired with a speaker that has more mids but less top. I put a pair in an old 4x12 Randall cab with two of the original Jaguars and the thing covers all the bases.
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Mikelamury
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I pulled the trigger on the Harley Benton vertical 2x12 with the Celestion vintage 30's for 307 shipped. That was an awesome deal compared to other brands prices. Thanks to Securb for recommending that.
Ascension
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Have owned both. Seventy 80's have a much narrower frequency range and are MUCH more dependent on the cab design as the speaker itself is quite limited. Vintage 30's are much more forgiving and lively sounding. Have had both in the same cab. Seventy 80's are just OK but I'm not a fan.
Demanic
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That's why they mix well with a mid heavy speaker like the Jaguar. You still get a good deal of punch out of a cab without the mids getting congested.
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theres actually different codes with slight differences. t3903 (8ohm), t3904 (16 ohm) both made in china. the original made for marshall exclusively, t3987 in 16 ohm only. then the two mesa versions t4416 (16 ohm) and t4335 (8 ohm). out of all of em, i really like the original marshall version best, a little warmer, but they all have that same v30 dna
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Thanks for posting this, I was not aware of it. It is very useful information.
