Speaker question

In my humble opinion....

V30s (and T75s) are THE quintessential sound of modern rock and metal.... You greenback guys hush for a second ha ha.
everyone knows the sound of the V30, it's a very popular speaker, if not the most popular speaker, and it's been used in so many cabinets for so many years. Most people really like them. They are the gold standard by which every speaker gets compared to.

usually, the only people who don't love them are audiophiles who have heard them soooo much that they just want to hear something else for a change. Or....old farts who want to listen to greenback or cream back vintage tone kinds of nonsense... only half teasing

The 70/80.... it's Just meh.
 
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In my humble opinion....

V30s (and T75s) are THE quintessential sound of modern rock and metal.... You greenback guys hush for a second ha ha.
everyone knows the sound of the V30, it's a very popular speaker, if not the most popular speaker, and it's been used in so many cabinets for so many years. Most people really like them. They are the gold standard by which every speaker gets compared to.

usually, the only people who don't love them are audiophiles who have heard them soooo much that they just want to hear something else for a change. Or....old farts who want to listen to greenback or cream back vintage tone kinds of nonsense... only half teasing

The 70/80.... it's Just meh.
Don't forget the 12M-70's.

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I like Seventy 80s in Randall amps and with Peavey heads. Works well with the Orange Super Crush 100 head. My Marshall 2x12 cab has them. They tend to have better low end response than Vintage 30s from my experience and are good with lot of high gain. 7 string guitars really thump with them, too. They can be either great, or not so great. Really depends on the head being used. Orange Micro Dark doesn't sound good at all with Seventy 80s, yet the Orange Super Crush 100 sounds amazing through them. But with anything Randall is where they shine I think.
 
I've never liked the 70/80. Too thin sounding. Not enough mids and bass for my ears. I've replaced them with Swamp Thangs (my fav) and never looked back.
Mix it with a speaker like the Jaguar with a lot of mids and it adds a nice clarity to the mix.

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I've never liked the 70/80. Too thin sounding. Not enough mids and bass for my ears. I've replaced them with Swamp Thangs (my fav) and never looked back.

I agree with this. Swamps are also a great speaker for an amp that has an upper-midrange or treble that is hard to dial right.
 
I'm not really saying a 70/80 can't sound good, not by any means, but head-to-head with some of the standard models I just do not prefer them.
 
I'm not really saying a 70/80 can't sound good, not by any means, but head-to-head with some of the standard models I just do not prefer them.

It really depends on the amp and the sound the person is going for. I had 70/80s in my open-back Quad Reverb and could not get them out fast enough. I moved them to the closed-back cab Fender 4x12 with the Fener M80 Pro head, they sound glorious. They have a lot of thump in this configuration and project very well. The amp really cuts through the mix.
 
I had a Randall 4x12 with 70/80s. I must have gotten lucky because they were really transparent and smooth in a way that tamed the fizz on my unmodded JVM which I didn’t like so much through the T-75s and had plenty of clean low end with my dual rec before I got better cabs and speakers for both.

Nobody who’s heard those recordings has thought “definitely budget speakers, would have sounded so much better through V30s” which is kind of the point of dialling in and capturing sounds properly. Nowadays, as well as some fairly simple mods on the amps, I love the G12Ks with the Marshall and the V30s and Eminence Legends (which to my ear is basically a smoother V30 anyway) with the Dual Rec in oversized cabs.
 
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I agree it's really all about the specific combination, and that goes for any speaker, just like guitars and pickups.
 
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