Special Thanks for MJ - Great Custom Shop Success Story

Lee_M.

Brockburst Toneologist
To all ~

About 2 months ago, I approached MJ during NAMM about winding a set of original spec '57 PAFs to model the pickups in Duane Allman's Cherry Burst. Well, knowing full well that the pickups were '57's (swapped from his original '57 Goldtop), the process of winding PAFs at Gibson was definitely new, so I believe that there were some anomaly-type PAFs wound for the Goldtops that were stellar by today's tonal standards.

The Story:
For 2 months straight, I sent MJ email after email talking about Duane's setup, tone and how he worked his tone controls, what speakers he was using, et al. I know by the end of it, she was exhausted. However, despite my email onslaught, she was still VERY WILLING to listen to what I had to say. She stayed ENTHUSIASTIC through the entire process.

Now, why did it take 2 months for MJ to comlete the pickups? Well, MJ wanted to make sure that Seymour listened to the CD's that I forwarded for her review. I had a particular tonal example I wanted her to replicate ("You Don't Love Me - 14:25 into the track - left channel) that I sent in CD format, so she could listen to the Fillmore concerts while she was winding the Brobuckers (and she did). Well, she kept telling me that she wouldn't wind the pickups until Seymour opined on the tone - at first it pissed me off.

However, I quickly realized that her desire to get Seymour involved with the process (as busy as he is) was to "get the pickups right" the 'first go around'. It is hard for me to put into words, but it is like a Master Instructor telling you that you need to scatterwind vs. the standard Leesona machine wind.

In this case, when Seymour finally had some time (thanks to a little help from Evan - thank you very much, bro), Seymour listened to the CD's and the "You Don't Love Me track at 14:25). Seymour gave the final opinion and MJ wound them - I really appreciated that vs. MJ just guessing what might have worked.

Why is this all important to the Forum Members?
Despite my "over-enthusiastic" attitude (which MJ and Evan said 'nicely'), I was really being a jerk at one point - I apologize for that. Nonetheless, MJ kept being extremely pleasant, nice and on schedule. They arrive on Tuesday or this week. MJ should be commended for dealing with me.

How will they sound?
I note that although I haven't received the pickups, Evan and MJ think that I'm going to love them, and I envision them really making a HUGE difference in my new VOS '59. It is going to be one sweet combination with my Blockhead 50W / 2x12 Combo (with JBL D120F's).

Soundclips?
Be on the look out for soundclips on April 1st and 2nd (or a week or so after that). There will more than plenty of clips to go around, and I will do the clips with the amp all over the gain spectrum.

Ossie at Blockhead Amps
As a side note, if you haven't dealt with Ossie at Blockhead, he is the coolest guy from/with which I've ever dealt and bought gear. He is simply amazing and he thinks that I have one of the nicest amps he's ever built (including stuff he's done for Aerosmith, Greenday et al).

My amp is promptly called the "Georgia Peach", while my guitar (with MJ's pickups) is called "Jessica".

Conclusion:
MJ, you are the best and I love you as a friend.

Without a doubt, I am 100% satisfied with how I've been treated and will recommend MJ over any of the other boutique winders at this time. Lord knows I've tried them ALL ("the boutique PAFs"), including the infamous Tom Holmes, which are collecting dust in my drawer at the moment (a cool $600 being unused).

Anyway, thanks for reading guys and gals. I thought that my story was important to share because MJ really went above and beyond the call of duty to please me.

I think these Custom Shop PAFs are going to be magical, so get ready for the clips!!! ;)

Very Best Regards,
Lee Moore
 
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Great story Lee. Really good to know that Seymour's staff are great people, and that they went to those lengths to keep you satisfied. Hope you enjoy those pickups!
 
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She rewound my neck Phat Cat to 7.5k with a 7.0 tap. It really sounded great in the neck of my LP. They were a little slow in getting it done because they lost it somewhere in the shop -- but because of that, they waived the fee and gave it to me on the house. She even put a new cover on it.

I'm going to put one of my own 'buckers in that slot soon because I think it will get me even closer to jazz nirvana, but I think this baby will be a stone-cold winner in my Tele neck.
 
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Zhangliqun said:
She rewound my neck Phat Cat to 7.5k with a 7.0 tap. It really sounded great in the neck of my LP. They were a little slow in getting it done because they lost it somewhere in the shop -- but because of that, they waived the fee and gave it to me on the house. She even put a new cover on it.

I'm going to put one of my own 'buckers in that slot soon because I think it will get me even closer to jazz nirvana, but I think this baby will be a stone-cold winner in my Tele neck.

That sounds very cool and that is another cool story about the Custom Shop.

Furthermore, I want to add one more thing. I believe that the reason MJ doesn't get more "requests" from the bedroom and practicing musicians for custom PAFs via the members on ALL the forums is because there is not much discussion on her PAFs on the website (since they are all specially made to order). I don't think enough people realize that and it only gets spread from word-of-mouth, which is powerful, but not quite enough to generate more business for her.

If you take Tim White (for example), he does the same wind every time and people can A/B that with other Les Pauls. The same with Rolphs, Holmes et al. With a 1 week lead time, that is what allows people to really promote the pickups.

With MJ, she could never do that because she has SO MUCH to do on a daily basis. I believe she is totally stretched thin, but is the best winder in the business when it comes down to Custom Orders.

Overall, I think that the Custom Shop is under advertised, but that may be because the Custom Shop is SO busy. I was trying to meet an April 1st deadline, so I started my exchange in mid-January. The pickups arrived 2 months later, which is the advertised lead time.

If we had 2 MJ's and 2 Seymour's doing all custom PAF orders, we could silence some of the wanna-be winders these days - of which there are so many in 2006 (like 12 guys right now).

Don't get me wrong, I have become good friends with Jim Wagner and Tim White, but I suspect that when it comes down to finding the real magic, MJ and Seymour have the background and knowledge that can't be replaced. Their documentation on all the PAFs they re-wound and come across is proprietary information that can't be priced. If you are looking for something special, they can get it for you. I mean, have you looked at the Custom Shop list, lately? It is HUGE. They can wind you any and all pickups. :arms:

In my opinion, I think the Custom Shop needs to be more propertly advertised in magazines or on the web.

Does anyone else agree or will that stretch MJ and Seymour too thin with the additional advertising? Realize that my intentions are to get "them" more attention on their PAFs because I truly believe they are as good when Custom Ordered.

Lee Moore
 
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I think the way to describe MJ in Spanish is "muy sympatico"

in other words, she's got a lot of soul

I think, besides being busy, Seymour is above considering all the boutique guys as competition. On the contrary, he's been very generous with his knowledge of pickups, both in his Vintage Guitar column, and elsewhere.
 
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Great story Lee and I really look forward to hearing your clips!
 
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i cant wait for you to try those pups!! amp sounds great too!
 
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JumpMarine said:
Great story Lee and I really look forward to hearing your clips!

Thanks! I'm positive they will sound great!
 
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Wow! She sounds like an absolute saint. :clap: I would've probably gagged if I was on the receiving end of your painful minutia. I hope you got what you wanted. It'd be a shame to put anyone else through what you've described, though it sounds like they're not the first to experience your "special brand" of requests :kidding:

That's why I'll never wind for hire. It sounds like she did $250 of winding and $5000 of listening for free.
 
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frankfalbo said:
Wow! She sounds like an absolute saint. :clap: I would've probably gagged if I was on the receiving end of your painful minutia. I hope you got what you wanted. It'd be a shame to put anyone else through what you've described, though it sounds like they're not the first to experience your "special brand" of requests :kidding:

That's why I'll never wind for hire. It sounds like she did $250 of winding and $5000 of listening for free.

Well, even though I don't know you (at all), I'll accept that my emailing was quite excessive and the minutia was plentiful (albeit very polite); however, that is how I run my job as an Investment Banker. The more details you get, the better product you can provide.

I truly do feel that I overwhelmed MJ with everything I sent. I was very, very specific with all the details about Duane, my setup and actually sending her the CD's so she could listen. I thought I was doing the right thing - I suppose not.

Again, I accept that I was a jerk with the emails and apologize to MJ, Seymour and Evan. Having been on this Forum for over 4 years, now, I know that I pressed the limits on this order and owe MJ a tremendous round of applause! :arms:

Thank you, MJ. Again, I love you as a friend and wish you the very best. If these pickups work out well, be ready for another wind to the same specs! Hopefully, you still have them!!
 
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Ah, I'm just goofing, hey if we can't laugh at ourselves....

I've probably done the same thing over the years with custom pups and amp mods and the like. Any time you're getting a pickup wound or rewound it's going to be like that. It takes a special kind of person to provide that kind of service.
 
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MJ really is quite a lady, I really enjoyed having dinner with her at UGD. Tons of stories, a no BS attitude and an absolute love of what she does.
 
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MJ and Seymour are both guitar tone angels!

I was looking for the ultimate Tele neck and bridge pickups and MJ told me she was going to wind me the best Telecaster set I ever heard.

And she did!

She wound me a "Tele ala Strat" Tele neck pickup that sounds about as close to a Strat neck pickup as I've heard and a Custom Shop version of the Tele Hot Tapped with alnico 2 poles instead of the alnico 5 poles in the standard model of the Tele Hot Tapped.

I've been using Joe Barden pickups in my favorite Tele, but the Tele set that MJ wound for me is the only set of Tele pickups I've used that can hang right in there with the Bardens...and the set MJ wound didn't cost $550!

Lew
 
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All of this extra talk about how great MJ's custom wound pickups are is making me want to order a set to my specs... :smack:
 
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Metalman_666 said:
All of this extra talk about how great MJ's custom wound pickups are is making me want to order a set to my specs... :smack:

Why don't you?
 
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sufferinrewind said:
Why don't you?

Agreed. I think there is a SERIOUS lack of marketing for the Custom Shop PAF and other pickup capabilities.

My Duane Pickup PAFs finally arrived and we are making one adjustment before I install them. I can't wait because the Blockhead amp (on the lead channel) is Duane Allman "Fillmore East" to the 'T'. No kidding. As such, it doesn't make it that versatile, but the clean channel is pure clean Marshall EL34/ECC83 that can crunch and take my Landgraffs like hot knives through butter. With my custom channel switching box, I have 2 amps in one!

Again, thanks MJ! Kick up more marketing on your Custom Shop capabilities!!

Regards,
Lee Moore
 
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Vow! GREAT!

BTW thanks for the detailed report.

Lee, after getting to know the pickup a bit, could you compare it to timbuckers, brobuckers, WCR fillmores and darkbursts (of course whenever you get the chance). I have timbuckers in my 04 LP standard, and it is a great LP. I am almost there, but I think I need a little bit more solid lowermids and cutting uppermids than what the timbucker bridge delivers for Duaney's Fillmore tones. It simply is not that thick, a little weak sounding (of course relatively speaking).

Best,

B
 
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Dr. B,

You got it, bro! I will say that after going through this Amp Process with Blockhead, we figured out that whether you were using Tom Holmes, Timbuckers, BurstBuckers, etc; the amp and your pick attached (hands) were 90% of Duane's sound. Last night, we had 3 guys playing the same guitar and playing the same licks - oddly, none of use sounded the same because of our playing styles. I do a "good" Duane, while the other guys were more metal and rock. Just odd though that the same guitar and amp can sound so much different.

However, I will do you a favor and compare each pickup in 'my speak'. I have no idea how to tell you about Upper Mids, Lower Mids, Buttery Mids, etc. I'll do my best, though, as usual! Just give me some time at the April 1st Jam to get soundclips!

Lee M.

P.S.> My amp has a lot of Upper Mids in it - that is a key component in the sound, as well as various other odd parts. I can say with certainty that Duane's Amps were NOT STOCK IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT - VERY FAR FROM IT. He also used a small channel switcher on stage between his 2 Marshalls at some gigs to get pure clean (Stormy Monday) and pure Georgia Peach Blues (Hot Lanta and You Don't Love me at 14:25) at the Fillmore East. I learned an aweful lot from Ossie at Blockhead and dispelled tons of myths. One very cool one is that he DID have his PAFs rewound using 43gauge wire to 11-12 to 14-15k, much like Wagner's Fillmores. In turn, that same guy did Jeff Beck's PAFs, which in turn became the building block for the JB (which we know is not that hot but 16K). So much great information and too much to share in one thread....

dr.barlo said:
Vow! GREAT!

BTW thanks for the detailed report.

Lee, after getting to know the pickup a bit, could you compare it to timbuckers, brobuckers, WCR fillmores and darkbursts (of course whenever you get the chance). I have timbuckers in my 04 LP standard, and it is a great LP. I am almost there, but I think I need a little bit more solid lowermids and cutting uppermids than what the timbucker bridge delivers for Duaney's Fillmore tones. It simply is not that thick, a little weak sounding (of course relatively speaking).

Best,

B
 
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Sounds like you got a set of aweome one-offs there. Can't wait for clips!
 
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