Squier Bass Wiring Issues

Kais

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This damn squier has been giving me problems since day 1. I got it used off some kid on cl, and he literally beat this thing to ****. If you look at the inside of the pickguard you'll see where the pickguard is melted and bunches of other stuff. He wasn't good at soldering, to say the least. Anyway, I'm getting the signal to come thru but I have 2 problems. I've followed the SD diagram exactly.

1. The volume knob is not working.
2. As soon as I let the strings go it starts humming very loud.

Here's my work, I'm using brand new cts pots and switchcraft jack. What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Squier Bass Wiring Issues

The volume pot cannot function as intended because the third lug is not grounded. (Typically, it would be bent back against the pot chassis and soldered to make the connection.)

Everything else in the photographs appears to be where it should BUT the solder joints are of indifferent quality. Many could do with refreshing.

In your position, I would be tempted to purchase a new pickguard.
 
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Thanks, I'm not sure if a regular p bass pickguard will fit. But besides that, can't find one anywhere
 
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Thanks, I'm not sure if a regular p bass pickguard will fit. But besides that, can't find one anywhere

A regular P-bass guard won't fit; my former roommate had one of those and we couldn't find a standard guard that would fit. If you really want one, pickguardian will make a custom guard to fit for $35-40.
 
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A regular P-bass guard won't fit; my former roommate had one of those and we couldn't find a standard guard that would fit. If you really want one, pickguardian will make a custom guard to fit for $35-40.

Pass on that. I already spent too much on this bass, considering they sell for ~$75 used
 
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Disguise the gaps in the pickguard around the new pickup with a sticker or two.
 
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Forgive me if I seem rude but your QP appears to be mounted incorrectly. The magnet polepieces of each bobbin should lie to either side of the string that they sense.

Roughly speaking, the edge of the DG bobbin should align with the A string. The edge of the EA bobbin should align with the D string. (All very approximate, I admit.)
 
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Forgive me if I seem rude but your QP appears to be mounted incorrectly. The magnet polepieces of each bobbin should lie to either side of the string that they sense.

Roughly speaking, the edge of the DG bobbin should align with the A string. The edge of the EA bobbin should align with the D string. (All very approximate, I admit.)
No worries. So the pups should be moved over to be properly aligned?

Let me fix this humming issue first, then I'll worry about that. This thing has been a pain since day 1
 
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It sounds to me like you need a complete shielding/grounding job. You can do it yourself, and it won't break the bank. A 100' roll of 10mm copper tape with conductive adhesive can be had for $6 on ebay.

One thing I would advise is to take care of your bridge ground before you do anything else with the shielding. What I do is lay a foundation of copper tape that is the same shape as, but just a hair smaller than, the bridge -- taking care not to overlap any tape, so the bridge has a perfectly smooth surface to rest on. Then I solder the ground wire to the copper tape, and leave the other end hanging in the control cavity. I poke some small holes in the copper for the screws -- I make them small so the screws will thread themselves through the copper, thereby helping to ensure the conductivity. Then the bridge is ready to be mounted, and I can carry on with the rest of my shielding.

When you lay your copper tape down, make sure you press down on every bit of each piece of tape, to fully engage the adhesive. In the control cavity, you can overlap all you want, and it's far better to have multiple layers than it is to miss a spot. When I'm done laying the tape, since I like a clean looking control cavity, what I do is solder the bridge ground wire along the bottom corner of the control cavity. I check to make sure the bridge ground is indeed connected, then I put more copper tape over where I soldered the wire in the cavity, rendering it invisible.

For the top of the cavity and the pickguard, some people use tabs. I like to go out all the way around the cavity, out to just beyond the pickguard screw holes. On the pickguard, I like to go out almost to the edge. This ensures full shielding contact all the way around the cavity, and it gives the pickguard a uniform surface to rest on.

To finish it all off, I go around and solder a lot of the seems/edges in the tape in the cavity. It's not necessary to do all of them (with conductive adhesive, it's not really necessary to do any of them) but I get a bunch of them. I do it because I like insurance, and I'd rather do too thorough of a job than one that isn't quite thorough enough. At the end of it all, solder a wire from your shield to the ground lug on your output jack. If it's done correctly, you will pretty much eliminate all extraneous noise, anything that is not a signal coming from your pickup.


This is a photo of a rear route control cavity I shielded using this process:
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I've just rewired an '83 Squier Precision this weekend, and used the same wiring diagram. As Funkfingers has already stated, the third lug on the volume needs to be grounded. Humming problems are usually the result of a bad earth, so make sure your solder joints are good. Measure the resistance from jack socket to the bridge, that should give you an idea if you earth is ok. It should be 0 ohms, or as near as dammit! :D
 
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thanks for the write up gents. I officially give up. I'm going to visit a tech today and see what the problem is. I sincerely hope it isn't the pups, but they shouldn't be considering i bought them brand new. Could it be the cap? A friend gave it to me. Hmmmmm. I have an orange drop laying around, I'll try that and see if it works
 
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Gosh, darn it, Musky. Fender P Bass wiring is about as simple as it gets.

Any chance of a photograph of your most recent "failed attempt" at the soldering job, please?
 
Re: Squier Bass Wiring Issues

Gosh, darn it, Musky. Fender P Bass wiring is about as simple as it gets.

Any chance of a photograph of your most recent "failed attempt" at the soldering job, please?

Will do tonight. I made all the previous adjustments you mentioned, but still the same results. I even confirmed with my friend who is pretty familiar with wiring. I'll send you a pic later today hopefully
 
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I don't know how much your tech costs/time you have but if you make the drive to Adrian (3 hrs) I will wire it up for you.
 
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I just rewired one of those Bronco pickguards last night. I put a cheap Belcat mini-hum in place of the stock pickup. I butchered the original pickguard when I put in a Bill Lawrence USA XL 500.

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So after switching out the pots and input, the humming has decreased. I've had the wiring double checked by a friend. When I'm not touching anything the humming starts, but when playing, it sounds perfect. I've checked my explorer, and it does the same thing, and that was wired up by a veteran technician a while ago. I'm thinking it may be my room, and lights ect, causing some noise in my rigs
 
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