Squier Cabronita - Proper P90s or not?

[ThreeChordWonder]

https://www.fender.com/en-US/squier...cabronita-telecaster-thinline/0377020502.html

I'm after proper P90s. They can be upgraded later if needed, along with the rest of the hardware, but the main driver here is getting a guitar with proper P90s.

Thanks.

 

[idsnowdog]

Jazzmaster pickups aren't P90s.

 

[ThreeChordWonder]

Thanks.

Scratch that one off the list then.

 

[alex1fly]

Jazzmaster pickups aren't P90s.

+1

Not much difference tonally though IMO. Both overwound single coils, respond similarly to controls and attack, etc etc. Yeah the construction (and history) is different but you can dial in similar sounds with similar settings. But I get the pursuit.

 

[Benjy_26]

Bah. They kinda screwed that one up, didn't they? I dig the original with filtertrons and even the one loaded with P-90's, but they should have called this one something else.

I may still get one, but call it a Surfcaster or a Jazzocaster.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

I agree with Benjy_26. Wouldn't have called that a Cabronita.

 

[elelpe]

Jim Adkins tele

 

[Benjy_26]

+1

Not much difference tonally though IMO. Both overwound single coils, respond similarly to controls and attack, etc etc. Yeah the construction (and history) is different but you can dial in similar sounds with similar settings. But I get the pursuit.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one.

Traditional P90's sound nothing like traditional JM pickups to me.

 

[Wattage]

Curtis Novak makes a P-90 that fits under a Jazz cover fwiw

 

[GuitarStv]

I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one.

Traditional P90's sound nothing like traditional JM pickups to me.

+1

Jazzmaster pickups sound very different from p90s. P90s are rawer, more powerful, and much middier. JM pickups tend to be bright/sparkly, lower output, and scooped.

 

[alex1fly]

I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one.

Traditional P90's sound nothing like traditional JM pickups to me.

Semantics. I didn't say they sound the same. I said they can be dialed in to have similar sounds. And I believe they both have more winds than regular 'ol Tele pickups - P90 does for sure, not certain on the JM pups.

 

[Benjy_26]

Semantics. I didn't say they sound the same. I said they can be dialed in to have similar sounds. And I believe they both have more winds than regular 'ol Tele pickups - P90 does for sure, not certain on the JM pups.

I never said that you claimed they sounded the same.

I said that they're completely different. Aside from 60 cycle buzz, they don't share a lot of similarities, to my ears and through my rig.

If you said you can get close to a P90 with a beefy tele lead, I'd go along. JM to P90? Nah.

 

[ThreeChordWonder]

Oh dear, what did I start?

 

[alex1fly]

Oh dear, what did I start?

Nothing, lol. I'm not a guy to argue with digital acquaintances, my posts are almost always intended to share a piece of insight - insight that may or may not apply to anyone else. The intention behind my post was to say that in my experience, of course they don't sound the same with identical settings but with different EQ settings and a variety of different gain staging methods P90s and JMs can be tweaked to sound and feel incredibly similar. I've used 'em both quite a bit in my current rig, and that was one takeaway so I was trying to be helpful by sharing that because it honestly surprised me. But there's a lot of mystique around gear so I totally understand the desire to try "the real thing". Sometimes there's nothing like using the real thing because then you have that baseline of experience to compare to. That was it

 

[GuitarStv]

With different EQ settings and a variety of different gain staging methods, you can make any pickup sound similar to any other pickup.

 

[ThreeChordWonder]

^ Yes, but I'm a guitar to Marshall tube amp with nothing in between kind of guy.

 

[Securb]

Bah. They kinda screwed that one up, didn't they? I dig the original with filtertrons and even the one loaded with P-90's, but they should have called this one something else.

I may still get one, but call it a Surfcaster or a Jazzocaster.

Got to agree. I have a TV Jones Classic Plus bridge in the neck of my Tele it screams.

 

[Benjy_26]

Got to agree. I have a TV Jones Classic Plus bridge in the neck of my Tele it screams.

I've got a Magnatron in the neck and a Classic Plus in the bridge of my Epi Sheraton. Very, very tasty pickups.

 

[GuitarDoc]

https://www.fender.com/en-US/squier...cabronita-telecaster-thinline/0377020502.html

I'm after proper P90s. They can be upgraded later if needed, along with the rest of the hardware, but the main driver here is getting a guitar with proper P90s.

Thanks.

I assume that by "proper P90s" you mean like a traditional dog ear or soapbar P90?

 

[ThreeChordWonder]

^Yes.