SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

jayylmao

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Planning on putting an ss5 in my American 2005 strat bridge position. Trying to get a fatter less bright tone (gilmour). Thoughts?


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Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

He seems to do really well with an SSL-5, so go for it!
 
Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

He seems to do really well with an SSL-5, so go for it!

I use this combo quite a time. But if you think you need more highs in the bridge while the middle and the neck are okay for you, check back here and ask for the 500k resistor mod. Just a hint!
 
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Interesting that the Gilmour pre-wired pickguard uses all SSL-5's, when it seems he used a combo of pickups in his actual guitar.
Al
 
Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

Interesting that the Gilmour pre-wired pickguard uses all SSL-5's, when it seems he used a combo of pickups in his actual guitar.
Al

Do we actually make something reported to be a Gilmour pre-wired pickguard?
 
Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

Don't want to hijack the thread but fast question:since the ssl5 and ssl6 are practically the same pickup minus the stagger, how would they differ sound wise if installed in the same guitar?


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Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

Don't want to hijack the thread but fast question:since the ssl5 and ssl6 are practically the same pickup minus the stagger, how would they differ sound wise if installed in the same guitar?


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I don't know if I could hear the difference, sound-wise. I tend to go for flat poles when I have a non-vintage radius and a plain 3rd string. Some people like staggered pickups no matter what. The stagger has more to do with string-to-string balance than a different 'sound'.
 
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Mincer-
To your radius idea. Don't swear at me yet, hear me out. EVERY single coil I get that I like the sound of that has a huge stagger, like the Fender 57/62's, or the Jimi '69's, I do turn around 180 (I have room) and Bam! Instant flat radius on the highs E,B,G,D, and the poles under my very thick low E, A are also instantly low, were I want them.
No monkey business. My favorite like the TBanger is good as is.
No charge. All of my Fenders are swimming pooled chambered, so my Strats have lots of room to turn. I have one Strat that is not that way, so as it is never to be sold and a basswood Strat at that, I did remove a little wood for the wire side so I could get my flat radius on one of my HSS Sets. I must have a thousand, but who's counting?
Steve Buffington
 
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After re-checking, I guess I was thinking of the Custom-Stagger SSL-5 set, where they mention that the bridge version is used by Gilmour. I had recently gone over the website for the first time in a long time, after hearing of pickups on the forum that I wasn't even aware of, and thought for sure that I had seen a Gilmour loaded PG, but for the first time in my life I seem to be mistaken! (insert appropriate Smiley here....).
The worst part is when I read your post, I thought "he is so closely associated with Duncan and he doesn't know everything they sell?", and checked again to find the P-LPG I was so sure of seeing, with no success. So consider my thought-words eaten!. Sorry about that.

Having said that, I have had my first Duncan set, which I bought many years ago, in 3 different Strats at this point, the latest being a Mexi-Strat. It's the SSL-5 in the bridge with SSL-1's in the other two positions, because I wanted a little more punch in the bridge at the time (I suppose those pu's are so old now you could refer to them as "vintage" in their own right). I like the SSL-5 for that reason, but whenever I play someone's Strat with the standard vintage type bridge pu, I kind of miss that sound, so I guess I'll have to get another Strat and set it up for those typical vintage Strat-type bridge sounds.

So anyway, I must apologize for my mistaken post about there being a Gilmour Pre-loaded PG, maybe it was wishful thinking on my part!.

Humbly,
Al

Do we actually make something reported to be a Gilmour pre-wired pickguard?
 
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Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

Can't you just buy a left-handed reversed-stagger pickup to begin with, to avoid turning them?. Maybe they are not available for all the different versions, though.
I once (many years ago) turned around the pickup's in my old beater vintage '63 Strat at an early attempt at achieving a sort of Hendrix vibe, and did a rough chisel job to fit them (in my defense at defacing a vintage Fender, this was before they became so expensive, or even before they concept of "vintage" guitars was even thrown around, and could be had for about $200 and were plentiful at that price). I no longer have that guitar, and even have to cringe myself at the thought of the mangling I did to that guitar!.

Al

Mincer-
To your radius idea. Don't swear at me yet, hear me out. EVERY single coil I get that I like the sound of that has a huge stagger, like the Fender 57/62's, or the Jimi '69's, I do turn around 180 (I have room) and Bam! Instant flat radius on the highs E,B,G,D, and the poles under my very thick low E, A are also instantly low, were I want them.
No monkey business. My favorite like the TBanger is good as is.


No charge. All of my Fenders are swimming pooled chambered, so my Strats have lots of room to turn. I have one Strat that is not that way, so as it is never to be sold and a basswood Strat at that, I did remove a little wood for the wire side so I could get my flat radius on one of my HSS Sets. I must have a thousand, but who's counting?
Steve Buffington
 
Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

After re-checking, I guess I was thinking of the Custom-Stagger SSL-5 set, where they mention that the bridge version is used by Gilmour. I had recently gone over the website for the first time in a long time, after hearing of pickups on the forum that I wasn't even aware of, and thought for sure that I had seen a Gilmour loaded PG, but for the first time in my life I seem to be mistaken! (insert appropriate Smiley here....).
The worst part is when I read your post, I thought "he is so closely associated with Duncan and he doesn't know everything they sell?", and checked again to find the P-LPG I was so sure of seeing, with no success. So consider my thought-words eaten!. Sorry about that.

Having said that, I have had my first Duncan set, which I bought many years ago, in 3 different Strats at this point, the latest being a Mexi-Strat. It's the SSL-5 in the bridge with SSL-1's in the other two positions, because I wanted a little more punch in the bridge at the time (I suppose those pu's are so old now you could refer to them as "vintage" in their own right). I like the SSL-5 for that reason, but whenever I play someone's Strat with the standard vintage type bridge pu, I kind of miss that sound, so I guess I'll have to get another Strat and set it up for those typical vintage Strat-type bridge sounds.

So anyway, I must apologize for my mistaken post about there being a Gilmour Pre-loaded PG, maybe it was wishful thinking on my part!.

Humbly,
Al

Funny thing is, I don't know everything about what we sell, although I know a lot. I still continue to ask a lot of questions, and learn. So if there is something mentioned that I am not aware of, I am generally curious, because I probably don't know about it yet. Good thing is that I will freely admit when I don't know something- and there are certain things I continue to learn from the members in this forum. As far as Gilmour goes (I was just listening to his new live CD), narrowing his sound down to a few pickups is a difficult task. We know he uses the SSL-5, and there is a whole lot more info about his guitar rig at gilmourish.com.
 
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Mincer-
To your radius idea. Don't swear at me yet, hear me out. EVERY single coil I get that I like the sound of that has a huge stagger, like the Fender 57/62's, or the Jimi '69's, I do turn around 180 (I have room) and Bam! Instant flat radius on the highs E,B,G,D, and the poles under my very thick low E, A are also instantly low, were I want them.
No monkey business. My favorite like the TBanger is good as is.
No charge. All of my Fenders are swimming pooled chambered, so my Strats have lots of room to turn. I have one Strat that is not that way, so as it is never to be sold and a basswood Strat at that, I did remove a little wood for the wire side so I could get my flat radius on one of my HSS Sets. I must have a thousand, but who's counting?
Steve Buffington

im basically the opposite. i want flat poles on everything if i can and if there is too much of a stagger, i hear things as unbalanced. even flipping the pup, that just changes which strings are popping out.

Having said that, I have had my first Duncan set, which I bought many years ago, in 3 different Strats at this point, the latest being a Mexi-Strat. It's the SSL-5 in the bridge with SSL-1's in the other two positions, because I wanted a little more punch in the bridge at the time (I suppose those pu's are so old now you could refer to them as "vintage" in their own right). I like the SSL-5 for that reason, but whenever I play someone's Strat with the standard vintage type bridge pu, I kind of miss that sound, so I guess I'll have to get another Strat and set it up for those typical vintage Strat-type bridge sounds.

getting a tapped bridge pup gives you a bit of both flavors. i had a tapped hot strat in the bridge for just the reason you mention, its nice to have the fatness but i also like the bright vintage cut. i wired it to a push pull and found the tap wasnt quite what i wanted so i wired the other side of the push pull to add the tone control when i use the tapped output. it was a great setup!
 
Re: SSL 5 into strat = gilmour?

Good idea!.
Thanks,
Al

im basically the opposite. i want flat poles on everything if i can and if there is too much of a stagger, i hear things as unbalanced. even flipping the pup, that just changes which strings are popping out.



getting a tapped bridge pup gives you a bit of both flavors. i had a tapped hot strat in the bridge for just the reason you mention, its nice to have the fatness but i also like the bright vintage cut. i wired it to a push pull and found the tap wasnt quite what i wanted so i wired the other side of the push pull to add the tone control when i use the tapped output. it was a great setup!
 
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