Stacking delay pedal

[Hsb]

I have a Carbon Copy and Red Witch Violetta delay. The CC is more clear and articulate where as the Violetta is a bit darker and warmer. Ive played around with the order but still unsure of which order they should be in, what say you guys about the order of those two pedals.

 

[Mincer]

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I have used a Vapor Trail and put another delay pedal in the insert jack. Weird, trippy sounds.

 

[Hsb]

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Agreed, thought Id try it when I saw a video of Steve Via stacking two DD-7s together on his board. He had them set so the second DD-7 filled in in between the 1st pedals notes, so kind of ping ponged a bit, if that makes sense.

 

[PFDarkside]

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If I use two, I like shorter into longer, but if I had your pedals I’d experiment with each being first and each being short/long.

 

[Aceman]

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Are we legitimately talking wet delay into wet delay? That's either really interesting or a sonic mess. Unless really tight 50ms etc. - I do that occasionally, for a "tone" delay and an "Echo" delay.

Or do you mean a parallel delay? One delay short, and one long. Two DIFFERENT delays off the same signal blended. That is very cool.

Other wise, order shouldn't matter. If both are on you get dark either way.

 

[Hsb]

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Its usually long and short, just playing with them, one may only be longer by a little bit, other times one has a much lo,ger delay than the other

 

[Mincer]

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I use mine with the 2nd delay only affecting the first delay's echoes...so the dry signal stays...dry.

 

[GuitarStv]

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The guitar sound on Run Like Hell is the only stacked delay sound I really like. It's a super cool Ping pongy kinda thing. I'd put the darker/warmer delay on short setting and the clear delay on longer setting. Then send long into short.

 

[Securb]

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I use two. First in the chain is a Carbon Copy with a 100~ ms delay and almost no REGEN into a DD7 with a very classic multi-tap setting. The DD7 would best be described as the "Detachable Penis" setting.

 

[Aceman]

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IS that what Slash does on the intro to Welcome to The Jungle, just for triplets?

Fast time, 3 repeats, then echo delay?

 

[Hsb]

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Everything I hear he was using slapback on the into to Welcome to the Jungle

 

[Sirion]

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In general terms, I would strongly encourage you to look into the possibilities of parallell routing if you want to stack delays. Running them in series is a possibility, but the result will be messier, and probably not what you are after. Pedals are unfortunately not very good platforms for parallell routing, but it can be done.

 

[Francois]

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In this experiment I kept a fairy clean main tone but something weird happens behind : the Vapor trail repeats (repeats only !) go though a Catalinbread Adineko which is modulated here either by a MXR Flanger or a Phase 90. It definitely adds something to the delay. Not for fast runs of course but for eerie slow single note riffs.
The early Cramps would have digged that.

(Bass Disto off)

PS : No fixed pedalboard here !

 

[Hsb]

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So with a bit of experimenting, I kinda like the Red Witch in front of the amp. I know thats kinda odd, few other delays Ive tried in front were always too forward and maybe because this is so dark its not so bad. I will say though after adding the CC, not feeling as much love for the Red Witch.

 

[Explorer84]

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I've been interested in stacking delays just recently. I've got a Belle Epoche and a recently purchased El Capistan. Right now, I've got the El Capistan in the effects loop. Where would I place the Belle? In the effects loop, as well? Or, in front of the amp? Just so you know, I don't have very much experience with stacking pedals of any kind.

 

[Hsb]

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Normally delay goes through your effects loop but dont be afraid of experimenting. With what experimenting Ive done, dont set the delay or regen close to the other pedal's setting, become a big ol bag of messy

 

[Mincer]

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Going in front of a clean amp, I put them one after the other right before the amp. In a distorted amp, I'd use both in the loop.

 

[Explorer84]

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What about the idea of running one in the loop and one in front of the amp? Pros and cons?

 

[Mincer]

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An echo pedal in front of a distorted amp is, sort of an acquired taste. It doesn't sound very good. Going into a clean amp, it never mattered to me if it was in the loop or not.

 

[Francois]

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A quote from Dead Kennedys' East Ray Bay :

"One of the tricks is to put the echo unit before the amp. Recording engineers don’t like that. When I have the guitar’s volume down, it hits the echo and then it hits the amp. The echoes clean up as they go through the amp, because they’re at less volume. Recording engineers or some guitarists stick it in the loop in the back of the amp. They make the sound, process it, and then they add the echo—but that’s more like a post-EQ effect. I do it pre-EQ. Even when I’m maxed out—like with the compressor on, the amp up, and the guitar all the way up—if there is a piece of silence, if you listen to the echo, it cleans up. The last ones will be the clean guitar. It’s a less technical way to do it, but it’s a more musical way. It’s bad engineering, but more musical."

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/24292-forgotten-heroes-east-bay-ray