Hi All, I am completely stumped. I have built and rewired more than a dozen guitars and while I may have an occasional initial problem, I always work it out - not this time! I made a walnut tele with two humbuckers. I've wired each to an on-on-on switch for series, parallel, and split; then to a 3-way toggle. I was excited as I think it looks cool and anxious to hear fabulous tone. Anyway, The neck worked right of the bat, but the Stag Mag in the bridge made no sound - bummer. Neck works fine so the switch for it is good, pots grounded, jack wired right (I think - it sounds right). I rewired the mini-toggle for the Stag Mag several times thinking it must be wrong. I tried several ways and still no joy. Thought maybe I burned up the switch and replaced with a new on-on for series/split. Still nothing. I bypassed that switch with the black to the 3-way, green and unshielded to ground and red and white soldered together and isolated. Still nothing. Cheap analog multimeter shows ~15 kohms across black/green and ~7.5 from red/white to green. I think this is telling me the pickup is fine, I put the meter from the 3-way blade to ground and see the 15/7.5 as I cycle the mini-toggle. I changed which pickup goes to which blade of the 3-way and the neck still works, but still no sound from Stag Mag. What do I do now? PS - the switches out of the circuit work as they should so I didn't ruin with heat. I've thought and redone this many, many times and welcome all suggestions - please! Thanks very much. Jeff
Stag Mag wiring help please!
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beaubrummels
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Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
Welcome to the forum
If you wire the stag mag direct to the jack without anything else, do you get sound?
Welcome to the forum
If you wire the stag mag direct to the jack without anything else, do you get sound?
Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
Show us a few pics of your wiring clearly showing the connections and the path of each wire. Something doesn't make sense if all of what you told us is true.
Wiring is like simple math...it's either right or it's not (it works or it doesn't), there's no in-between.
Show us a few pics of your wiring clearly showing the connections and the path of each wire. Something doesn't make sense if all of what you told us is true.
Wiring is like simple math...it's either right or it's not (it works or it doesn't), there's no in-between.
Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
You "think"? How is that possible? With your wiring experience, you either "know" or you don't.
There are only two ways to wire a jack. You either have: 1) the hot going to the tip lug and the ground going to the sleeve lug; or 2) just the opposite.
In any case, if the neck pup works properly, then this is not the problem.
Apparently everything from the switch to the jack is fine. The pup itself is fine. The on-on-on toggle is fine. It would seem that there is a problem with the wiring from the pup to the switch. When you measured the resistance of the pup, were you measuring at the ends of the wires that were actually soldered to ground and to the switch? Do you have any spliced wires in-between (extending either the black or green wires)? If not, then it can only be your connection (solder joint). Clip off 1/4" of both the green and the black wires. Tin them with solder. Then resolder to their respective ground or switch lugs.
You "think"? How is that possible? With your wiring experience, you either "know" or you don't.
There are only two ways to wire a jack. You either have: 1) the hot going to the tip lug and the ground going to the sleeve lug; or 2) just the opposite.
In any case, if the neck pup works properly, then this is not the problem.
Apparently everything from the switch to the jack is fine. The pup itself is fine. The on-on-on toggle is fine. It would seem that there is a problem with the wiring from the pup to the switch. When you measured the resistance of the pup, were you measuring at the ends of the wires that were actually soldered to ground and to the switch? Do you have any spliced wires in-between (extending either the black or green wires)? If not, then it can only be your connection (solder joint). Clip off 1/4" of both the green and the black wires. Tin them with solder. Then resolder to their respective ground or switch lugs.
Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
Pics are the easiest way we can help out here. Take several, with good lighting from several angles- sometimes it is hard to see where everything goes! Most likely it is a simple wiring mistake. Show us some pics so we can get you back to rocking.
Pics are the easiest way we can help out here. Take several, with good lighting from several angles- sometimes it is hard to see where everything goes! Most likely it is a simple wiring mistake. Show us some pics so we can get you back to rocking.
Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
Hi all, my initial note was a bit sheepish as not used to asking for help. So I have included pictures as I still don't see my problem.
I still don't get anything whether I go to the mini-toggle or remove it. A few zooms:
When I am wired to the toggle and test with the meter I get this for split
and double when it is supposed to be in series.
This is what I am trying to fix
It is a simple circuit and the neck with the series-split-parallel works great. If you can spot something wrong I would appreciate it. Thanks! Sincerely, Jeff
Hi all, my initial note was a bit sheepish as not used to asking for help. So I have included pictures as I still don't see my problem.
I still don't get anything whether I go to the mini-toggle or remove it. A few zooms:
When I am wired to the toggle and test with the meter I get this for split
and double when it is supposed to be in series.This is what I am trying to fix
It is a simple circuit and the neck with the series-split-parallel works great. If you can spot something wrong I would appreciate it. Thanks! Sincerely, Jeff
Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
The first thing I see is that the Stag Mag is only wired to the red mini toggle to get series or split (no parallel). The next obvious thing I see is the very poor soldering. You could have lots of cold solder joints that may look and feel physically connected, but in actuality may not be electrically connected. And your close up pics of the mini-toggles is so out of focus and wires covering up the connection, I can't tell what wire is connected to what. I can't see the vol pot wiring.
You say the neck pup works great, but from what I can see, it doesn't appear like you have that blue switch wired correctly for series/split/parallel. Here's how it should be wired for Seymour Duncan pup wire color code:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf
What is your neck pup, anyway?
You have two spliced wires: a red-to-black, and a black-to-black. I assume that these go to the output jack hot and ground lugs respectively?
The first thing I see is that the Stag Mag is only wired to the red mini toggle to get series or split (no parallel). The next obvious thing I see is the very poor soldering. You could have lots of cold solder joints that may look and feel physically connected, but in actuality may not be electrically connected. And your close up pics of the mini-toggles is so out of focus and wires covering up the connection, I can't tell what wire is connected to what. I can't see the vol pot wiring.
You say the neck pup works great, but from what I can see, it doesn't appear like you have that blue switch wired correctly for series/split/parallel. Here's how it should be wired for Seymour Duncan pup wire color code:
https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/WD_Pushpull_minitoggle_3.pdf
What is your neck pup, anyway?
You have two spliced wires: a red-to-black, and a black-to-black. I assume that these go to the output jack hot and ground lugs respectively?
beaubrummels
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Re: Stag Mag wiring help please!
FWIW - the neck cover says Bartolini.
OP - I would still ask - if the StagMag is wired direct to the jack, does it make sound?
(If so, then either the 3-way or the mini has a bad solder joint somewhere.)
In the first image - 2 things:
* It doesn't look like the black wire from the StagMag is connected very well to the 3-way
* The ground wires coming off the 3-way should not be laying back on the switch / touching the blades of the switch like that. To me, it looks like when you flip to the bridge, the ground would be grounding out the signal completely.
FWIW - the neck cover says Bartolini.
OP - I would still ask - if the StagMag is wired direct to the jack, does it make sound?
(If so, then either the 3-way or the mini has a bad solder joint somewhere.)
In the first image - 2 things:
* It doesn't look like the black wire from the StagMag is connected very well to the 3-way
* The ground wires coming off the 3-way should not be laying back on the switch / touching the blades of the switch like that. To me, it looks like when you flip to the bridge, the ground would be grounding out the signal completely.
