StagMag questions...
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Masta' C
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Re: StagMag questions...
1) The poles are actual magnets (A2), as on a regular single coil.
2) No neck-specific version exists. You can adjust it further away from the strings and/or add a push/pull for coil split/parallel operation to get a thinner, spankier tone out of the neck.
1) The poles are actual magnets (A2), as on a regular single coil.
2) No neck-specific version exists. You can adjust it further away from the strings and/or add a push/pull for coil split/parallel operation to get a thinner, spankier tone out of the neck.
Artie
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Re: StagMag questions...
Good point. You reminded me that that's exactly what I did on my neck Stag Mag.
Although, I must add, it wasn't in my guitar for very long. There are far finer neck pups than a Stag Mag.
Good point. You reminded me that that's exactly what I did on my neck Stag Mag.
Although, I must add, it wasn't in my guitar for very long. There are far finer neck pups than a Stag Mag.
Re: StagMag questions...
Thanks to all!
Here's why I was asking about a neck version...I'll try and make this short.
I'm currently using a JB in both positions, and it works well for me. To be honest, I split the HB's and use the single coils as much or more than as HB's.
Without going into too much detail, I use the JB's because each coil is closer to actual single coil resistance (and sound). With this, plus some extra wiring tricks, I actually get a pretty passable single coil sound, as well as volume, and significant Strat quack.
The way I have the pickups oriented, when using the inside pair of coils, or the outside pair, the coils are RWRP, making the combo hum canceling.
I'm thinking the same thing should be true if I use two Bridge model StagMags. Now that I've had to type this out, I realize I probably DON'T want a neck version. Since the poles are staggered, I wouldn't be able to just turn the pickup around.
Normally the JB in the neck would probably be too much for most people, but my particular guitar is quite bright, and I kind of like the warmer HB pickup.
But as I said, I typically using the pickups in one split mode or the other. So why not just use lower output HB's? Because the split mode coils are SIGNIFICANTLY lower output; almost unusable, really.
Actually, I'm quite happy with what I have, but I thought the StagMags might be even closer yet to true single coil sound.
Last question, since we've come this far: for those who've used the StagMags, is there a big difference in string pull? If so, I might just stay with what I have...
Sorry for the long winded post! If you've read this far, I applaud you! :clap:
Thanks to all!
Here's why I was asking about a neck version...I'll try and make this short.
I'm currently using a JB in both positions, and it works well for me. To be honest, I split the HB's and use the single coils as much or more than as HB's.
Without going into too much detail, I use the JB's because each coil is closer to actual single coil resistance (and sound). With this, plus some extra wiring tricks, I actually get a pretty passable single coil sound, as well as volume, and significant Strat quack.
The way I have the pickups oriented, when using the inside pair of coils, or the outside pair, the coils are RWRP, making the combo hum canceling.
I'm thinking the same thing should be true if I use two Bridge model StagMags. Now that I've had to type this out, I realize I probably DON'T want a neck version. Since the poles are staggered, I wouldn't be able to just turn the pickup around.
Normally the JB in the neck would probably be too much for most people, but my particular guitar is quite bright, and I kind of like the warmer HB pickup.
But as I said, I typically using the pickups in one split mode or the other. So why not just use lower output HB's? Because the split mode coils are SIGNIFICANTLY lower output; almost unusable, really.
Actually, I'm quite happy with what I have, but I thought the StagMags might be even closer yet to true single coil sound.
Last question, since we've come this far: for those who've used the StagMags, is there a big difference in string pull? If so, I might just stay with what I have...
Sorry for the long winded post! If you've read this far, I applaud you! :clap:
Re: StagMag questions...
I've got StagMags in several guitars and love them. When they are split they get a very good Strat sound...bridge or neck.
The string pull is no different than a Strat type single coil, but probably more than a humbucker. I have never noticed it in any of my guitars.
I've got StagMags in several guitars and love them. When they are split they get a very good Strat sound...bridge or neck.
The string pull is no different than a Strat type single coil, but probably more than a humbucker. I have never noticed it in any of my guitars.
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im sure the custom shop could do an underwound stagmag if you wanted. two 6k coils instead of two 8k coils. you could of course just use two normal stagmags and keep the neck set lower. as doc said, there will be a little more string pull but with the neck set a little lower it shouldnt be anything to worry about. the series sound of two single coils is different than a typical humbucker though but it seems like the single coil sounds are more important to you
im sure the custom shop could do an underwound stagmag if you wanted. two 6k coils instead of two 8k coils. you could of course just use two normal stagmags and keep the neck set lower. as doc said, there will be a little more string pull but with the neck set a little lower it shouldnt be anything to worry about. the series sound of two single coils is different than a typical humbucker though but it seems like the single coil sounds are more important to you
Artie
Peaveyologist
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Hey Trois; These two statements lead me to believe that you may have a slight misunderstanding about how the noise-canceling function works. Rotating a pup 180 degree's does nothing. Humbucking is all about how the coils are wound and wired. So, if you want two humbuckers to be quiet when both are split, you need to take the bridge R/W to ground, and the neck R/W to black or hot. (Stud coil and screw coil.) Rotating either pickup 180 deg's won't alter that. The same will hold true with a pair of Stag Mags. Wire them as I just noted and you can make both split and humbucking without concern for pole stagger.
Now, if you wanted to have both stud coils of a normal humbucker quiet, it's a little more tricky. You need to flip the mag in one pup, and wire it up slightly differently. But that isn't really a concern with the Stag Mags.
Make sense?
Artie
Hey Trois; These two statements lead me to believe that you may have a slight misunderstanding about how the noise-canceling function works. Rotating a pup 180 degree's does nothing. Humbucking is all about how the coils are wound and wired. So, if you want two humbuckers to be quiet when both are split, you need to take the bridge R/W to ground, and the neck R/W to black or hot. (Stud coil and screw coil.) Rotating either pickup 180 deg's won't alter that. The same will hold true with a pair of Stag Mags. Wire them as I just noted and you can make both split and humbucking without concern for pole stagger.
Now, if you wanted to have both stud coils of a normal humbucker quiet, it's a little more tricky. You need to flip the mag in one pup, and wire it up slightly differently. But that isn't really a concern with the Stag Mags.
Make sense?
Artie
audiocheck
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audiocheck
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Re: StagMag questions...
I'm sorry but that's not exactly true.
Stagmag uses regular humbucker bobbins (likely polycarbonate, like most other duncan pickups-
- singlecoils, real single coils, use flatwork.
Stagmag uses a nickelsilver baseplate, which increases the inductance and capacitance
- singlecoils use flatwork, vulcanized fiber actually. These don't do anything to the inductance.
That makes a HUGE difference, imho.
These pickups are imho the most true dual singlecoils in a humbucker formfactor:
https://nordstrandaudio.com/products/ndc-humbucker
true singlecoil bobbins? check. Flatwork tops and bottoms? check. True singlecoil tones? check. True humbucker tones? nah. not so much.
I'm sorry but that's not exactly true.
Stagmag uses regular humbucker bobbins (likely polycarbonate, like most other duncan pickups-
- singlecoils, real single coils, use flatwork.
Stagmag uses a nickelsilver baseplate, which increases the inductance and capacitance
- singlecoils use flatwork, vulcanized fiber actually. These don't do anything to the inductance.
That makes a HUGE difference, imho.
These pickups are imho the most true dual singlecoils in a humbucker formfactor:
https://nordstrandaudio.com/products/ndc-humbucker
true singlecoil bobbins? check. Flatwork tops and bottoms? check. True singlecoil tones? check. True humbucker tones? nah. not so much.
