stomp box vs multi

[Binnerscot]

Re: stomp box vs multi

Here's my complete touring rig...

It takes 60+ flights per year, fits neatly into the back of Tarago along with a Kurzweil and various other backline for road trips, and is guaranteed to be in every FOH mix!

You're dragging around a Road King, a cabinet, a rack case for the G-Major, and some kind of MIDI foot controller, as well as your guitar(s)? Don't feel bad for me!

Is there an amp in that pic? Except for the 4x12, my setup is just a head, a three space shallow rack and Rocktron Midimate (pretty small itself). Its not bad at all. You have that packed up pretty tight, nice travel arrangement.

 

[wahwah]

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Is there an amp in that pic? Except for the 4x12, my setup is just a head, a three space shallow rack and Rocktron Midimate (pretty small itself). Its not bad at all. You have that packed up pretty tight, nice travel arrangement.

Yeah, there's a Fender Super Champ squeezed in there! Your rig sounds great, and I bet it sounds great, too!


Cheers...............................wahwah

 

[WhoFan]

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ha ha ha.... i still can't believe the size of venues you have played with that rig Wah Wah... but after carrying a completely insane amount of gear to some club gigs i did a few years back i'm right with ya on that set up you have there!!! Traveling on planes and buses a small rig like that would be wonderful!!!

i hated lugging my 4x12, 2 heads, custom head switching system, some FX's and 3-4 guitars.... 3am at pack up time i'd be dead....

 

[Binnerscot]

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Yeah, there's a Fender Super Champ squeezed in there! Your rig sounds great, and I bet it sounds great, too!


Cheers...............................wahwah

Ahhh, I see it now! I have a Mesa F-30 just for compact carry, it does pretty well for the range of Mesa tones. Those small Fenders have some spank to them, I always liked that. Greg Koch uses similar stuff (pile 'o pedals and an old Fender combo), and he has a good set of hands to work it too. He doen't get too carried away with FX, he just wrestles the strings. That seems to be a fairly prominent setup for certain brands of Strat players. I listened to some of your stuff, you are in that vein of Strat player. I grew up on Ed and Metallica in the 80s, so the tones I am going for are a little different than what that type of setup delivers.

 

[wahwah]

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Ahhh, I see it now! I have a Mesa F-30 just for compact carry, it does pretty well for the range of Mesa tones. Those small Fenders have some spank to them, I always liked that. Greg Koch uses similar stuff (pile 'o pedals and an old Fender combo), and he has a good set of hands to work it too. He doen't get too carried away with FX, he just wrestles the strings. That seems to be a fairly prominent setup for certain brands of Strat players. I listened to some of your stuff, you are in that vein of Strat player. I grew up on Ed and Metallica in the 80s, so the tones I am going for are a little different than what that type of setup delivers.

Yeah, it's definitely not a metal rig! There's not really any paid work in Australia for metal players, it kind of came and went in the 80's, although I'm sure there are still plenty of fans out there. This rig will cover just about anything up to that point, which is where the body of my work is.



Cheers.................................wahwah

 

[Bender]

Re: stomp box vs multi

Ok guys I got the message..
Personally, I use both just depends on what sound I'm trying to get or how much I wanna tweek on a mfx . That stated, if you want to sound like every other guitar player on the planet that sounds like every other guitar player on the planet use stomps ,, they're simply not versitile enough without dancing all over the room to get a wide varity of tones that can separate you from the rest of the boys..
Granted there are few mfx's with a great end tone straight out of the box but with some tweeking ( some more than others ) you CAN get some really cool sounds.
I can't see Gilmour ,Beck , etc. using $100.00 gear. As with anything else you get what you pay for and how many of us can afford to pay mega bucks ?
Great tone not only comes from whatever pedals you're using but also from the ax, your hands and most of all from your mind ,, be creative don't accept the norm.

 

[millsart]

Re: stomp box vs multi

Ok guys I got the message..

That stated, if you want to sound like every other guitar player on the planet that sounds like every other guitar player on the planet use stomps ,, they're simply not versitile enough without dancing all over the room to get a wide varity of tones that can separate you from the rest of the boys..


Granted there are few mfx's with a great end tone straight out of the box but with some tweeking ( some more than others ) you CAN get some really cool sounds.


I can't see Gilmour ,Beck , etc. using $100.00 gear. As with anything else you get what you pay for and how many of us can afford to pay mega bucks ?

A few points.....

1) stomps do not make you sound like every other guitar player, in fact its the opposite. Do you really think some mfx box with a some bread and butter effects in a fixed routing order is the key to unique sounds ?

Stomp boxes allow you to get some over the top effects. Show me a mfx unit with a Tremolo effect that can do what a SD Shape Shifter can do ? Or a Gig-fx Chopper ?

Show me a mfx unit thats got a filter (rare in itself) but less tthat can do what a qtron or moog LP can achieve ?

Or a wah effect that lets you tweak the voicing and sweep like a Teese RMC3. Instead every MFX wah I've ever played sounds like a poor Crybaby emulation. Hardly the key to unique sounds

Top this with the ability to freely change the order around, put effects into the loops of other effects such as the qtron+ or maybe a Foxrox Octron 2 etc and you've got creative flexibility greater than anything a MFX unit can do.


2) Depends on the MFX unit. I think in the case of something like a digittech RP series, you could spend the rest of your life tweaking and it would still sound like garbage

3) Gimour, Beck, Hendrix et al made a career out of using $100 gear. Fuzzfaces, screamers, dynacomps, big muffs, small stones etc. Its the same gear that any of use can easily go buy for the most part. You don't have to spend a ton of money to get great tone. Theres so many excellent builders offering top notch stuff these days for reasonable prices.

 

[Binnerscot]

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3) Gimour, Beck, Hendrix et al made a career out of using $100 gear. Fuzzfaces, screamers, dynacomps, big muffs, small stones etc. Its the same gear that any of use can easily go buy for the most part. You don't have to spend a ton of money to get great tone. Theres so many excellent builders offering top notch stuff these days for reasonable prices.

Hendrix wasn't around long enough to see it, but I am sure Gilmour and Beck have used some very high end rack stuff.