Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

[Sludgenutz]

I have tried a bunch of web searches already.

The guitar on that tune is a Flying V. Any info regarding the fuzz box used, or other gear would be greatly appreciated.

:smokin:

 

[these_go211]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

sorry, i probably can't help with an answer. but i just want to say that song and tone is the most beautifully ugly slice of pure raw punk rock tone ever commited to wax. sheer grotesque heaven! i wouldn't be surprised if he got that by playing thru damaged speakers while cranking his amp to 10. ron played some stooges stuff at a j mascias show a few years ago. his marshall stack looked like it was very road-weary: ripped tolex, it wasn't even black anymore, sort of a washed out white/black. so i'm thinking the tone on "i wanna be your dog" might have been lespaul into cranked marshall. ?

 

[B2D]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

Try a sears silvertone electric into a broken silvertone with ripped speakers. That might get you somewhere.

 

[Sludgenutz]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

sorry, i probably can't help with an answer. but i just want to say that song and tone is the most beautifully ugly slice of pure raw punk rock tone ever commited to wax. sheer grotesque heaven! i wouldn't be surprised if he got that by playing thru damaged speakers while cranking his amp to 10. ron played some stooges stuff at a j mascias show a few years ago. his marshall stack looked like it was very road-weary: ripped tolex, it wasn't even black anymore, sort of a washed out white/black. so i'm thinking the tone on "i wanna be your dog" might have been lespaul into cranked marshall. ?

Yesterday, I read a Ron interview from about 1997:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/ronasheton.html

A Flying V was used on the first album "The Stooges" for all tunes except "Real Cool Time", "Not Right", and "Little Doll". Of course, a wah was used!

Ron felt Don Gallucci's professionalism squelched the band's fury on the second "Fun House" album. Ron and band literally put the amps on "10" like they were used to, and went on "studio strike" until Gallucci let them turn it up to 8-1/2.:13:

The interview:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/ronasheton.html

edit: Ron and Iggy seemed to have patched some old scars over in the last few, and recorded the VERY good DVD: "Iggy and the Stooges Live in Detroit" (2004). Scott "Rock Action" Asheton is solid on the skins, and Mike Watt (The Minutemen) is on bass:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...2214927-7663255?_encoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130

:usa1:

 

[Mojambo]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

Ron felt Don Gallucci's professionalism squelched the band's fury on the second "Fun House" album. Ron and band literally put the amps on "10" like they were used to, and went on "studio strike" until Gallucci let them turn it up to 8-1/2.

That's weird, because I have a hard time thinking of any albums that are even close to the fury that is on "Fun House." But I digress.

I've read in several places that Ron used a Maestro fuzz (the manufacturer of that pedal escapes me). I also know that he mostly played a Strat during the early lineup of the band, but I don't know why he decided to use a Flying V to record their first album.

But if you want to talk about pure Les Paul into cranked Marshall sound, that was James Williamson, who played guitar on "Raw Power." I read an interview with him where they were like, "So what pedals did you use back in the Stooges days?" And he replied, "None, just my guitar into the amp, dimed." And if you've heard this guy's tone...it's just further confirmation on how badass these guys really were.

 

[these_go211]

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wow. looks like i was pretty much wrong...........on all counts!

 

[B2D]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

I told chops about this thread last night. He said that it sounded to him like someone plugged the guitar directly into the mixing board and then turned the trim all the way up. :laugh2:

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

I told chops about this thread last night. He said that it sounded to him like someone plugged the guitar directly into the mixing board and then turned the trim all the way up. :laugh2:

It's a raged tone but it's not that bad!? Is it???

 

[Sludgenutz]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

That's weird, because I have a hard time thinking of any albums that are even close to the fury that is on "Fun House." But I digress.

I've read in several places that Ron used a Maestro fuzz (the manufacturer of that pedal escapes me). I also know that he mostly played a Strat during the early lineup of the band, but I don't know why he decided to use a Flying V to record their first album.

But if you want to talk about pure Les Paul into cranked Marshall sound, that was James Williamson, who played guitar on "Raw Power." I read an interview with him where they were like, "So what pedals did you use back in the Stooges days?" And he replied, "None, just my guitar into the amp, dimed." And if you've heard this guy's tone...it's just further confirmation on how badass these guys really were.

Oh yeah, Funhouse/Raw Power are great records. Ron Asheton felt Gallucci was killing their live fury. I should have been clearer.

One memorable pic I have seen of Williamson is his skinny ass and with a Les Paul in front of at least two sets of Sunn model-T's stacked on top of two Sunn 4x4 cabs. I'm pretty sure they used Marshalls too.

 

[B2D]

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It's a ragged tone but it's not that bad!? Is it???

It's pretty awful. Chops played the clip for me and i have to admit it's probably the shizziest, most lo-fi guitar tone (if you can call it that) I've ever heard.

 

[Sludgenutz]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

I told chops about this thread last night. He said that it sounded to him like someone plugged the guitar directly into the mixing board and then turned the trim all the way up. :laugh2:

Fine! Just let him know I will be the first in line to see one of his shows should he ever achieve that kind/level of bombastic tone. I think Chops is a cool dude, regardless. :smokin:

 

[B2D]

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Fine! Just let him know I will be the first in line to see one of his shows should he ever achieve that kind/level of bombastic tone. I think Chops is a cool dude, regardless. :smokin:

 

[larry_emder]

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by far and away the most horrible guitar tone i've ever heard.......but you wouldnt have it any other way, would ya?!

 

[Sludgenutz]

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Yes, you can get nasty sounding stuff plugged straight in. I used do the same thing taking an old (not at the time) mechanical (not solenoid driven) cassette decks...Just put the deck on "record", and plug into the "mic" input!:laugh2:

edit: It was more Gregg Ginn sounding, than Ron Asheton!:laugh2:

Regardless of the solo that has that straight-in sound, the rest of the tune is not.

 

[ZeroDOOMER]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

I have tried a bunch of web searches already.

The guitar on that tune is a Flying V. Any info regarding the fuzz box used, or other gear would be greatly appreciated.

:smokin:

You can buy a Joyo Voodoo/Ultimate Octave online for $20-30. Plug your guitar into that, dial the tone knob up and hit the octave up button on it. I find it to be pretty similar. Maybe not exactly, but I think you'd like it.

 

[Wattage]

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SludgeNutz come back

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

Wow. A 12-year zombie thread. That has to be some kind of record.

 

[Wattage]

Re: Stooges/Ron Asheton: What fuzz/gear for "I Wanna be Your Dog"?

Nah we have way older zombies around this joint