Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Strap button felt washers needed or not?
I assume that you have direct access to their sales records and can back this statement up with something in hardcopy form? Or that you at least work for them and can count how many guitars are made every day? Interesting also that you automatically take it as a statement intended to defend Gibson.
Either way you´re taking a theoretical example that was applied to no company directly but posted to illustrate a point and acting like it was an obvious defensive statement purely to help a specific one. Sorry man, but that type of bull**** is asinine and does nothing conducive to reasonable discussion. If I talk about the cost of tomatoes that are still growing on the vine, do you go off and rebutt with how Old Man O´No´s Ketchup Factory in Whothe****cares, BS does it wrong and is not making that many bottles a year anyway? Same reactionary BS for the pure sake of a cheap shot, different industry
For the record and your information, Gibson is not the only nor the largest guitar manufacturing company in the world, just the one that people (sometimes validly) like to pick apart and criticize the most because they usually can´t afford them. But assuming that all statements are designed to protect or illustrate their specific situation merely hints at a skewed perspective and vitriolic agenda on your side.
So, now that we have established the difference between a theoretical example and "This is meant to be applied directly and only to Gibson", let´s take a look at the economy and big business themselves, shall we.... After all, cost cutting is almost universally driven by capitalism.
If you take a look around, those companies that are still doing financially well these days are those that make next to nothing targeted at the "average Joe". How many End Consumer products targeted at a 35-50k/year income household do Boeing, General Electric, Lockheed, Lamborghini, McLaren or Rolls Royce produce. The companies that realized that the average joe is the largest mass of the public but with the lowest per capita buying power and went above that sector early to reap the rewards are the ones still afloat and doing as well as ever. Diversification helps as for ex. in the case of GE, but is not essential as shown by Rolls, Lambo, McLaren and many other manufacturers of high end exotic cars. They all did the smart thing: designed products the average joe wants but can`t afford, but that are perfectly within financial range of the celebrities and governments that the sheeple keep showered in money no matter how bad the economy is
And if we really want to get Anal about it, Gibson is one of the handful of companies that can claim an actual, valid reason to not use them. Namely because they have never used them and get flamed to hell everytime they change anything away from what is not "Traditional" or "vintage spec".
Again, I agree with you 100% that they should be standard on every instrument, period. But hearsay and opinion-based Gibson bashing for no apparent reason without really thinking about all the factors involved first is a bit too juvenile for me to take seriously.
I assume that you have direct access to their sales records and can back this statement up with something in hardcopy form? Or that you at least work for them and can count how many guitars are made every day? Interesting also that you automatically take it as a statement intended to defend Gibson.
Either way you´re taking a theoretical example that was applied to no company directly but posted to illustrate a point and acting like it was an obvious defensive statement purely to help a specific one. Sorry man, but that type of bull**** is asinine and does nothing conducive to reasonable discussion. If I talk about the cost of tomatoes that are still growing on the vine, do you go off and rebutt with how Old Man O´No´s Ketchup Factory in Whothe****cares, BS does it wrong and is not making that many bottles a year anyway? Same reactionary BS for the pure sake of a cheap shot, different industry
For the record and your information, Gibson is not the only nor the largest guitar manufacturing company in the world, just the one that people (sometimes validly) like to pick apart and criticize the most because they usually can´t afford them. But assuming that all statements are designed to protect or illustrate their specific situation merely hints at a skewed perspective and vitriolic agenda on your side.
So, now that we have established the difference between a theoretical example and "This is meant to be applied directly and only to Gibson", let´s take a look at the economy and big business themselves, shall we.... After all, cost cutting is almost universally driven by capitalism.
If you take a look around, those companies that are still doing financially well these days are those that make next to nothing targeted at the "average Joe". How many End Consumer products targeted at a 35-50k/year income household do Boeing, General Electric, Lockheed, Lamborghini, McLaren or Rolls Royce produce. The companies that realized that the average joe is the largest mass of the public but with the lowest per capita buying power and went above that sector early to reap the rewards are the ones still afloat and doing as well as ever. Diversification helps as for ex. in the case of GE, but is not essential as shown by Rolls, Lambo, McLaren and many other manufacturers of high end exotic cars. They all did the smart thing: designed products the average joe wants but can`t afford, but that are perfectly within financial range of the celebrities and governments that the sheeple keep showered in money no matter how bad the economy is
And if we really want to get Anal about it, Gibson is one of the handful of companies that can claim an actual, valid reason to not use them. Namely because they have never used them and get flamed to hell everytime they change anything away from what is not "Traditional" or "vintage spec".
Again, I agree with you 100% that they should be standard on every instrument, period. But hearsay and opinion-based Gibson bashing for no apparent reason without really thinking about all the factors involved first is a bit too juvenile for me to take seriously.
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