strat coil slant -why?
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: strat coil slant -why?
That's what it ends up doing to the sound, but I think the reason may have been more cosmetic than anything else. Looks great, fits the curves. Very artistic. But unfortunately it makes a bridge SC so bright & thin on the high strings as to be almost unuseable for many players. And having only one 250K volume pot with no tone pot, that SC bridge is treble on top of treble.
With Hendrix's Strats being upsidedown, he had a much better angle, with the bridge SC slanted towards the neck, giving more volume & body to the high strings (from the greater string energy). Sound-wise, this is how Leo should have slanted the bridge PU, but the visual lines don't flow as well with the pickguard. Tone lost out to looks.
That's what it ends up doing to the sound, but I think the reason may have been more cosmetic than anything else. Looks great, fits the curves. Very artistic. But unfortunately it makes a bridge SC so bright & thin on the high strings as to be almost unuseable for many players. And having only one 250K volume pot with no tone pot, that SC bridge is treble on top of treble.
With Hendrix's Strats being upsidedown, he had a much better angle, with the bridge SC slanted towards the neck, giving more volume & body to the high strings (from the greater string energy). Sound-wise, this is how Leo should have slanted the bridge PU, but the visual lines don't flow as well with the pickguard. Tone lost out to looks.
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Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: strat coil slant -why?
Actually the angling of Tune-O-Matics and stop bar bridges is to achieve correct intonation and not for tonal reasons
the angling of the bridge pickup was done to warm upo the bass strings while still keeping the sparkle and brilliance on the high strings. IMO it would have been better the other way around, but it was Leo´s design and not mine.
Actually the angling of Tune-O-Matics and stop bar bridges is to achieve correct intonation and not for tonal reasons
the angling of the bridge pickup was done to warm upo the bass strings while still keeping the sparkle and brilliance on the high strings. IMO it would have been better the other way around, but it was Leo´s design and not mine.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
I knew it aided intonation, but I didn't know that was the only reason it was.
Lew, Dr. Barlo and a few other guys were running reverse slant bridges a few years ago, I wonder if they still are?
Luke
Actually the angling of Tune-O-Matics and stop bar bridges is to achieve correct intonation and not for tonal reasons
I knew it aided intonation, but I didn't know that was the only reason it was.
Lew, Dr. Barlo and a few other guys were running reverse slant bridges a few years ago, I wonder if they still are?
Luke
Re: strat coil slant -why?
Exactly, it's funny how the slant almost makes the strat bridge unusable to me as far as once you start getting on the high strings. The closer you get to the bridge, the more harmonics and overtones with higher frequencies are emphasized, the pickup really should have been slanted the other way
Exactly, it's funny how the slant almost makes the strat bridge unusable to me as far as once you start getting on the high strings. The closer you get to the bridge, the more harmonics and overtones with higher frequencies are emphasized, the pickup really should have been slanted the other way
Zhangliqun
Questionologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
At least that part's easily fixed. Just take the wire leading from the mid pu tone pot to the mid pu and swap it to the bridge pu.
At least that part's easily fixed. Just take the wire leading from the mid pu tone pot to the mid pu and swap it to the bridge pu.
Re: strat coil slant -why?
From what I know, it's to match the string spacing. I've always preferred reverse slants though (they are called Voodoo by most people). I think the bridge sounds so much more balanced this way. It kind of stops sounding like nails on a chalkboard...
edit: everyone said the same thing. I just trolled without intention! ooops
From what I know, it's to match the string spacing. I've always preferred reverse slants though (they are called Voodoo by most people). I think the bridge sounds so much more balanced this way. It kind of stops sounding like nails on a chalkboard...
edit: everyone said the same thing. I just trolled without intention! ooops
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cvansickle
New member
Re: strat coil slant -why?
Leo did it to the Broadcaster (later, Telecaster) first.
Leo did it to the Broadcaster (later, Telecaster) first.
MattPete
New member
Re: strat coil slant -why?
That doesn't make any sense, as the string spacing widens as you move towards the bridge, and slanting the bridge pickup effectively makes the pole spacing narrower.
I think Leo did it for looks, or else he was tone deaf. I've never tried it myself, but I agree with the folks that suggest that slanting it the other wa would sound better.
That doesn't make any sense, as the string spacing widens as you move towards the bridge, and slanting the bridge pickup effectively makes the pole spacing narrower.
I think Leo did it for looks, or else he was tone deaf. I've never tried it myself, but I agree with the folks that suggest that slanting it the other wa would sound better.
BlueSnMettle
Michaelewski
Re: strat coil slant -why?
My fathers best friends cousin actually work with Leo and the truth be told...
He was always looking for a different slant on things.
My fathers best friends cousin actually work with Leo and the truth be told...
He was always looking for a different slant on things.
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
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Skaforlifeologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
why? cuz it'z kewl:smokin:
honestly no it really isn't but wh'ever. though it isn't all that bad on a tele, but i suspect the fact that there's a tone pot hooked up to it might be part of the reason:scratchch
why? cuz it'z kewl:smokin:
honestly no it really isn't but wh'ever. though it isn't all that bad on a tele, but i suspect the fact that there's a tone pot hooked up to it might be part of the reason:scratchch
LtKojak
New member
Re: strat coil slant -why?
There's no pot attached to a Strat... so that's not the reason.
I also think the reason was purely cosmetic.
There's no pot attached to a Strat... so that's not the reason.
I also think the reason was purely cosmetic.
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Skaforlifeologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
i know, i meant that the tone pot on a tele is almost always hooked up to the bridge pickup, as opposed to a strat.
i know, i meant that the tone pot on a tele is almost always hooked up to the bridge pickup, as opposed to a strat.
Re: strat coil slant -why?
In the late 40's, there were a few Gibson models (ES300, etc) that used a slanted pickup. The idea was to even out the tonal response. One model had a P90 type that was twice as long as a normal P90 with 4 magnets. In addition to other reasons, Leo may have latched onto that idea that was floating around at that time...
In the late 40's, there were a few Gibson models (ES300, etc) that used a slanted pickup. The idea was to even out the tonal response. One model had a P90 type that was twice as long as a normal P90 with 4 magnets. In addition to other reasons, Leo may have latched onto that idea that was floating around at that time...
doesitmatter
New member
Re: strat coil slant -why?
What you have to remember was that amps in the 50's didn't get a lot of treble. The angled single coil (and no tone knob for that pickup) was leo's way of helping the amp cut through the mix. As amps evolved, they could produce high end better, making that bridge pickup a little too bright.
What you have to remember was that amps in the 50's didn't get a lot of treble. The angled single coil (and no tone knob for that pickup) was leo's way of helping the amp cut through the mix. As amps evolved, they could produce high end better, making that bridge pickup a little too bright.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: strat coil slant -why?
On the oldest Teles and Broacasters you had a different switching set up though with the back position, like on a strat, being no tone control. This gave more punch and treble for lead lines.
Luke
On the oldest Teles and Broacasters you had a different switching set up though with the back position, like on a strat, being no tone control. This gave more punch and treble for lead lines.
Luke