Strat: Series-Parallel Switching

Guitar Toad

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For the guys that do this, is it usually with the bridge and middle pup? This requires a push-pull tone pot?
 
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bridge and middle pup and middle neck-- sometime a 'neck-on' push-p is used to add the neck into this - and mega switches are used with push-p's

try to find "deft eddies" schematics-- for all this or guitar nuts .com
 
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Thanks Donzo-
I've seen that Def Eddy thing before. It gives too many options, I gotta keep it simple. I'm just looking to add a push-pull for one additional series-parallel option.
 
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Artie drew me a schematic for bridge/mid series. I can post it if you like. I haven't done it yet because I'm looking for a decent push/push pot rather than a push/pull. You could also do it bridge/neck!
 
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Guitar Toad said:
Thanks Donzo-
I've seen that Def Eddy thing before. It gives too many options, I gotta keep it simple. I'm just looking to add a push-pull for one additional series-parallel option.
I've put his Fat-O-Caster 3 position switch in my part-o-caster. I just use the normal setting (standard strat) or the last setting so I can get neck + middle in series (5 way in the middle) or birdge + middle in series (5 way for birdge only).

See its not hard to remember, I'm almost 50.

Now his Chromacaster mod is one where I'd be afraid I'd forget how to play the guitar before I learned what all the positions were.
 
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I have my Strat wired for series/parallel switching between neck and bridge pickups. Was hoping to get a Les Paul type middle position tone but it's a little too hot and muddy. With my new home-made hot pickups in neck and bridge, I get reasonably close to that tone for a Strat with plain ol' parallel now though.

But there was a side effect with the switch on series in that it changes the tones what you get in the other four positions on the 5-way switch.

The most usable to me is in what would normally be the neck/middle switch position, I get all 3 pickups -- EXCEPT, the neck and bridge are in series, and then in parallel with the middle pu, which, contrary to what you would expect, makes the middle pickup the dominant of the 3 pickups. When I tap the poles with a screwdriver, the middle pu is louder than the neck and bridge. The sound is very different from all 3 in parallel -- much, much cluckier/quackier, sort of like a really beefy version of normal bridge/middle.
 
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Can't help much if you don't want to fool with a 4-pole/5-way mega switch. There's a cool mod on the GuitarNuts site that I have not tried, but looks right. It replaces the middle pup alone in position 3 with the bridge & neck in series:

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I've got a strat with a 5-way mega switch, a parallel/series toggle for any combination of pickups, and a push/pull that adds a neck&bridge combo and a combo of all 3 pups. Actually, both strats have a parallel/series switch, it just gets more complicated with the H/S/S setup.

I use the parallel/series switches all the time, especially in the all-single coil strat. Middle/bridge in series has more definition, bass and balls than in parallel. Not exactly like a bridge humbucker, but close. Neck/middle in series is dark and powerful. Neck/bridge in series can get a great Tele-like tone, only with more balls.

Mike Richardson has a cool layout on the GuitarNuts site too: http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/mikerichardson.php

Enjoy,

Chip
 
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I'm not sure if I like "Def Eddie" or "Deft Eddie" better...!
Go easy on me, this is my first post in a loooooong time over here.

Now, y'all take these descriptions with a big ol' grain of salt...

On a Strat with stock or not-too-hot custom pups, here are my impressions:

The TONE produced by the bridge-neck series sounds like a generic humbucker - NOT a bridge humbucker, NOT a neck humbucker, just kind of that nebulous in-there-somewhere humbucker. It's kinda sweet, in a way. One of my favs.

The tone produced by the mid-neck series combo isn't distinctly Strat, nor distinctly humbucker. It's just... well, bigger. Thicker and more trebly than the neck pup alone, but less bite than the the bridge-mid series. If you have a RW/RP mid pup, this combo actually has the noise-reducing capabilities of a regular humbucker.

This here drawing will get-r-done with a single P/P:

http://deaf-eddie.net/drawings/strat-series-2.jpg

And then...

The tone produced by the bridge-mid series is a harder sound, still seems to quack a bit to my ear, but I have heard it described as very similar to a cheap bridge humbucker - as expected, it's not as sweet as the neck-bridge or neck-mid combo. Ditto on the noise reduction to the mid-neck combo.

And theeeeeen...

The tone produced by the bridge-neck series/out of phase is doinky like you'd expect out of phase to be, but not as thin as parallel - I rather like this tone. It is also a hum-cancelling combo. While I could almost use it clean (for most of you, probably not), where this combo really shines is when you add some overdrive or crunch - this combo literally STINGS and sings. It's also extremely condusive to pinched harmonics, a la The Reverend Billy... Now, where'd I leave that peso?
 
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I have a Pushpull on my vol (the guitarnuts design) and it is cool, it is a bridge 'on' in series with neck or mid, whatever is selected...simple, effective.

The Bridge is RWRP, so either 'humbucker' setting is hum canceling.Not your usual approach but I like it.

Neither sound is quite like a normal 'bucker. Using alnico2pros, the sound is darker & smoother & a bit louder. Good for overdrive stuff...I'll have to play around with it soon & post come clips.
 
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Thanks Deaf Eddy, that's a great run-down of the options. I was looking for a fatter sound for use with overdrive and crunchy tone. The bridge-neck series/out of phase sounds very cool.

Dave Z, if you post clips I'd be interested to hear what you've got.
 
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I like to think I've got a pretty versatile strat setup:

S-S-S but w/ SD lil 59 in bridge (much better and more useable than standard SC)

Anyway, i've got a push pull which, when down, is the normal strat setup (but with the 59 obviously - not split at all - even in pos2)

With the push/pull up it gives:

5: Neck and Middle in series
4: Neck single
3: Kill
4: 59 humbucking
5: 59 humbucking in series with middle - great raw 'triple' coil rock lead tone

as i said - very versatile 1 axe setup! all the clean/blues/classic rock tones i need

if you're interested drop me a PM and i'll post the schematic
 
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Eric said:
59 humbucking in series with middle - great raw 'triple' coil rock lead tone

Thats an interesting idea that I would never have thought of. I may have to try that sometime.
 
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ArtieToo said:
Thats an interesting idea that I would never have thought of. I may have to try that sometime.
yeah its really cool - its got the tone etc of the 59 but just that little bit hotter and more raw - a good combo when you need a solo to stand out against a really frantic blues-rock number :)
 
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