String dumpener/muter is it cheating?

Sympathetic Vibration can occur when you least expect it or even need it. If a string dampener or even a simple hairband means you don't have to think about it, then use it.
 
George Van Eps and Bucky Pizzarelli were both using them in the 50's and 60's on their 7 string archtops. Since those guys are both monsters, I think they are acceptable.
 
George Van Eps and Bucky Pizzarelli were both using them in the 50's and 60's on their 7 string archtops. Since those guys are both monsters, I think they are acceptable.
Interesting, I wonder why all the 80s shredders never used one? And unless I missed some from what I’ve seen Satch, Vai, Lynch still don’t use one, YJM obviously isn’t either, did anybody see Al DiMiola use one ?
 
I see it more as a studio thing, but I would never call it cheating because I don't see music as a sport or competition anyways.
Never used any dampeners myself, with the exception of coated tremolo-claw springs in the back of the floyd route.
 
I think it is being used now because gain and compression is higher, and any little noise gets amplified as much as the intended note. I don't tend to use that much gain or compression so I don't use one. I don't care what other players do.
 
I've worked really hard to learn to play cleanly enough that I don't feel a need to use one - through a combination of picking palm and left hand dampening. This lets me play open strings when I want. If you never need to play open strings, or if you have developed a technique around engaging a string mute when necessary, that would do the same thing. Whatever works for you.
 
It's only cheating when used during practice. In fact, no that's not even "cheating"; that's just flat out gimping yourself.

But it's a tool that saves studio time and therefore save money. Why would you not use it during recordings unless you want some of the sympathetic resonance?

What I am a bit against though are the marketed Fret Wraps products and stuff. Like, just use a sock or borrow your significant other's scrunchie.
 
If you need crutches to cut a record or passably perform live that's fine, but using in your day to day playing just hurts you more than anything.
 
Doing multiple takes in the studio is cheating, but that's how a record is done.

At least with the multiple takes you are playing the piece correctly once. I don't count it as cheating until you start gluing together bits and pieces from multiple takes, or quantize stuff that's played out of time. That's cheating.
 
I have been thinking about this and no it is not cheating. There are plenty of guitars that were built with dampeners, and plenty of basses. Pianos and other stringed instruments have string dampeners. A string dampener is not going to make you a better or worse player. It is just a tool, use it or don't as you see fit.
 
If anything, the need for a string dampener is indicative of a design flaw in the instrument. It's not a cheat to correct an inherent problem.
 
At least with the multiple takes you are playing the piece correctly once. I don't count it as cheating until you start gluing together bits and pieces from multiple takes, or quantize stuff that's played out of time. That's cheating.

Putting tiny sections of music together is the rule, rather than the exception.
 
Interesting .... so quite a few of you have split into two camps, Use IT/Use it but ONLY DURING recording ...... would be great to see two camps debate. I am kind of leaning to the latter .... I think ..... although I've never seen my hearos George Lynch, Richie Blackmore, YJM, Tony Iommi, Criss Oliva, Uli Roth, Satch, Mick Mars, Vitto Bratta, Nuno, use one back in the day ....
 
It seems as though most people have the idea that "If someone has a different technique than what I use, it's somehow wrong."
Interesting.

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