Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

I think Mourning Smoke would be INCREDIBLE with a vox AC30 Top Boost with a strat running into the front end and a little delay. The raspy pick attack of the top boost and strat combo would just kill with that song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TLO7oJg8w Take out most if not all the delay from what you hear on this youtube clip and apply the tone to Mourning Smoke. MAN that would be great!!! You have GOT to include a vintage AC30 TB in the set with some vintage celestion alnico blues speakers.

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

EDIT: can someone (VK or supernosher) explain the differences between the dual rectifier amps? also a JCM800 seems a little pointless b/c of my Budda.

Pre-500 serial numbers are the most sought after - apparently had different transformers. After that, they made the 2 channel Dual Recto, which sound almost as good as the pre-500's. Currently, they make the 3ch head... they're not bad, but they're not as organic sounding as the older ones. The Orange channel gets really really ****ed close, though, and is often overlooked, since most people just go for the Red channel in modern mode. The other 'Recto' to look at is the Roadster... the 4ch, non-multi-tube-mode one (step down from a Roadking, but voiced better IMO). The gain channels on that amp have a roar I have never heard out of any Recto besides the pre-500's. It's super clean, super organic, and feels amazing to play on!

They also made a rackmount Dual, called the Racktifier... those sound best to me out of any other Rectifier, besides the Roadster. Probably a bit harder to find, though.

 

[tone4days]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

boogie mk iv
fender deluxe reverb

 

[J Moose]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

Well when I think of single channel amps I tend to think of SINGLE SOUND amps. Sure, you can tweak the knobs all day and get different results but to me the overall voice of the amp stays the same. Also we can only afford a week for studio time so I'm really not sure how much time there will be for overdubs.

Also with the initial 'live' recording I can think of quite a few songs that have buildups after a clean riff/ before a nasty overdriven one. Channel switching during times like these will offer tons of panning and fading opportunities without adding the subtle differences with overdubs and the extra time.

(sigh)


Thats not how it works.

If you want to have all your panning & cross fading options open, which is advisable for a competitive "modern" rock record, then you ABSOLUTELY need to overdub. Do a pass of 'clean' guitar... do the 'dirty' pass and double or triple it. Add your fill and 'ear-candy' guitars...

The scratch tracks might, and really should bear some fruit but I think for what you want to accomplish, you'll have to overdub unless you want a rawer, "live in teh studio" feel to the finished product.

Rather then blowing your budget on renting amps and experimenting with gear that you don't know at all... it makes far more sense to dump all your available funds into production fees & recording time. Any studio worth working at will have a small wall of amps & stompboxes to pick from, as will any producer worth working with, all at no additional cost to you.

Not to mention that it's usually possible to borrow gear from friends for a week or three of tracking, which gives you all the benefits of having new tones available but with none of the expense.

Frankly, unless the artist has a budget of over and above $10,000 then there's usually no allotment for rentals of any sort in the production budget. Maybe $500. Maybe. Instead I rely on the bands gear (which gives you YOUR tone!) and bring a few heads & boxes from my stash along, not to mention cymbals and snare drums...

Regardless of what you decide to do, you'll likely be much better off letting the producer or studio secure the rentals for you. Typically the rental houses don't like working with unknown musicians and will jack up the rates...

I do know quite a few people in & around Nashville if you need help...

I also travel.

Best of luck with it!

 

[ksmith63]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

BTW, you ought to describe to us just exactly what in the heck your Budda's voice is.

Most of us (me) have no idea what it sounds like or what its copying.

to me the drive channel is all about 'the brown sound' and the amp to me seems to be sonically between a plexi and 800. thicker sounding than an 800 and more gain than the plexi. the mid shift (i usually use) seems to boost the high mids and gives the amp a little more edge.

the clean channel is much better than a marshalls but not quite fendery. i use the bright switch to make it more articulate but that tends to make it sound a little thin.

If you want to have all your panning & cross fading options open, which is advisable for a competitive "modern" rock record, then you ABSOLUTELY need to overdub. Do a pass of 'clean' guitar... do the 'dirty' pass and double or triple it. Add your fill and 'ear-candy' guitars...

The scratch tracks might, and really should bear some fruit but I think for what you want to accomplish, you'll have to overdub unless you want a rawer, "live in teh studio" feel to the finished product.

we actually do want a 'live in the studio' feel but I was also planning on overdubbing as much as time will allow. we have some jam type stuff so i was hoping to have the live recording part good enough for that but also going back and recording the 'set' parts.

studio will be renting the amps. most of my friends dont have very good equipment and/or never heard of vacuum tubes....

thanks for offering your support.

I think Mourning Smoke would be INCREDIBLE with a vox AC30 Top Boost with a strat running into the front end and a little delay. The raspy pick attack of the top boost and strat combo would just kill with that song.

i really enjoy the clean verse parts to incubus' 'stellar' which was done with a strat. my dad has a 50th anniversary that i can borrow for some parts. i've never thought about adding delay to that song....

 

[shaka]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

First I would rent a Matchless DC30. There are a ton of different sounds in that amp. Also it really does well with pedals which really opens things up.

Second I'd go with something that will do the Marshall thing. Bogner, Splawn, and yes, even Marshall can do this.

First check and see what the studio has available. They may have all you need and save you some dough.

 

[Laughing Kookaburra]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

(sigh)


thats not how it works.

If you want to have all your panning & cross fading options open, which is advisable for a competitive "modern" rock record, then you absolutely need to overdub. Do a pass of 'clean' guitar... Do the 'dirty' pass and double or triple it. Add your fill and 'ear-candy' guitars...

The scratch tracks might, and really should bear some fruit but i think for what you want to accomplish, you'll have to overdub unless you want a rawer, "live in teh studio" feel to the finished product.

Rather then blowing your budget on renting amps and experimenting with gear that you don't know at all... It makes far more sense to dump all your available funds into production fees & recording time. Any studio worth working at will have a small wall of amps & stompboxes to pick from, as will any producer worth working with, all at no additional cost to you.

Not to mention that it's usually possible to borrow gear from friends for a week or three of tracking, which gives you all the benefits of having new tones available but with none of the expense.

Frankly, unless the artist has a budget of over and above $10,000 then there's usually no allotment for rentals of any sort in the production budget. Maybe $500. Maybe. Instead i rely on the bands gear (which gives you your tone!) and bring a few heads & boxes from my stash along, not to mention cymbals and snare drums...

Regardless of what you decide to do, you'll likely be much better off letting the producer or studio secure the rentals for you. Typically the rental houses don't like working with unknown musicians and will jack up the rates...

I do know quite a few people in & around nashville if you need help...

I also travel.

Best of luck with it!

+1

 

[NoOnesFang13]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

Mesa Road King
Plexi

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: Studio Help!...what amps should I rent?

Rather then blowing your budget on renting amps and experimenting with gear that you don't know at all... it makes far more sense to dump all your available funds into production fees & recording time.

Oooh, thinking outside the box five!