Suck Toan
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NegativeEase
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Forgot about this -truly the worst and best comedy of that era... Oh man, aside from tonal crimes -what a mess of a song!
Also, I know Mark Slaughter can sing, it's a shame, they didnt at least pick a better key for him, I imagine it was because this song was developed with the previous singer.
Yeah, even mod-teenage me knew how terrible it was...not just for the time, but for any time. I don't think you could make a parody video this bad.
Gtrjunior
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The acting is Oscar worthy in that video. LmAo
LLL
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On the recording, that's actually Robert Fleischman (not Mark Slaughter), who formerly sang lead for Journey briefly around 1977.
In the video, that's Mark Slaughter.
LLL
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There's far worse.
NegativeEase
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LLL
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You can shame whatever you want; welcome to the 1st Amendment (backed by the 2nd).
NegativeEase
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LLL
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Yeah, but there's a hidden rule that says don't trigger the Trigglypuffs.
Everything sounds good.
Everyone plays good.
Everyone is highly experienced.
Everyone is right & correct no matter what they say.
NegativeEase
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Well, first amendment doesnt apply on a private forum, so if Seymour prefers a certain way to prevent the escalation of the what we all know results in a forum full of the ridiculous, fine by me.
There are 100x other instrument/music forums to blow steam off if thats their.your thing.
but making fun of Vinnie Vincent tone is a protected right everywhere I believe.
NegativeEase
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LLL
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I'd even offer $5 to some to buy a sense of humor (who takes "Suck Toan" seriously... seriously?), but I'm afraid they'd even turn that down.
Anyhoo, back to Suck Toan.
I want it, I will have it.
Soon.
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Demanic
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But isn't good tone nothing more or less than a matter of taste?
Or is there a baseline from which one is not allowed to deviate from, before being considered worth nothing more than comedic value?
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NegativeEase
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I think there is both, there is technically achieving tone qualitatively using science -things like signal/noise ratio, harmonic content, distortion etc etc and then just taste or opinion based on artistic goals.
Example, You've made it clear you like very driven Fizz in your tone, Scientifically, it's not the best sound for musical intelligibility and perception of sound for a human ear -but it works in many artistic spaces working to make a sound to communicate something, evoke an emotion etc We joke about too much fizz all the time, we make metal zone jokes, you are a good sport and I respect your for your tastes and opinion on what you prefer -it's fine, plus I'm not planning on shaming people on here for tones I think are poor unless they are literally begging for it by saying they have the world's greatest tone etc etc - Not my thing.
But listing professional recording example where millions were spent on tone that I or people on here feel are rig, playing or recording fails for tone are totally fair game. -and important from a discussion standpoint -as it gives us commercial examples and benchmarks for carving out a discussion on tone in the first place.
but in the end, comedic value above all else!!!
I think this is one of the greatest artistic tonal successes,.... BTW
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I've looked this up and it is, indeed, a universal right worldwide.
LLL
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Going on this tangent - Vinnie's toan was so suck, that a dude literally burst into flames at the end of that video (at about 4:06).
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