Suggestions for NON rock - electronica

Re: Suggestions for NON rock - electronica

right. for bridge I think its a sound that will work for what I want to do with this gtr. for neck, well still looking for that big mellow but not muddy, easy attack sound. I'll try to find some YT samples of those pups clean... and I do appreciate your help !
 
Re: Suggestions for NON rock - electronica

Gibson Classic '75 neck
500k pot with .047 cap
Flatwound strings
Tone knob rolled down
 
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got a set of 1/2 wounds to put on. on a 72 SG, I have a .10-.46 set , but with original .022 caps and new 500K's. that tends to decend into mud. pups are original PAF's. It would be easy to swap the cap to .047 on the SG as a test, misery on the A75. pretty sure the A75 is 500K pots but was hoping to not have to mess with that part... although if I do, I'll probably change the tone controls to master high / low cuts rather than per pickup high cuts as normal wiring.

I've always struggled with the gibson PAF's. ok for some rock sounds, not so great for pretty much anything else unless you have a fender twin / MM 212 to plug it into. in one of those amps it can be a magic fat smooth sound, but then probably so can just about anything else. I think part of it is impedance matching of the amps that used to have high / low inputs.

so I'll probably change pups out over the weekend if they show up tomorrow. I'll put up a quick demo on YT between stock and the new pups late next week. see if I get to where I want to be. debating to record direct, or thru small marshall amp I have. probably gonna go direct.

elelpe said:
Gibson Classic '75 neck
500k pot with .047 cap
Flatwound strings
Tone knob rolled down
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If you're still looking for a neck pickup, you'll probably do best with the $145 Antiquity.

Perhaps a 59 Neck with a rough A2 magnet could get you close on a tight budget.
 
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interesting. Antiquity had been on my list as a maybe.

since I posted I've been getting more educated. saw some vids on swapping magnets :) so now that I know that for a couple dollars I can brighten or mellow a pup out w/o replacing it, AL3 and AL4 have my interest for a different tone. even the rough vs smooth surface thing has me intrigued.

I should have my hands on new pups today. I'll put them in and figure it out from there if they aren't what I want.

thanks !

gregory said:
If you're still looking for a neck pickup, you'll probably do best with the $145 Antiquity.

Perhaps a 59 Neck with a rough A2 magnet could get you close on a tight budget.
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The neck pickup sounds great! If the tone control on the neck is 500k, then you might get a more useful range by changing it to 250k, audio taper. It will be the same as a 500k audio taper pot between 7 and 8.

If you want the bridge pickup to be brighter and more aggressive, swap its magnets to a pair Alnico 5s.
 
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thanks !

pots are 500K AT. I was tempted to add the volume cap / resistor pair, and to flip the center and pup hot on volume pots. normally its easy to mess around with but with no access cover, this thing is pretty miserable to reinstall everything. really glad I did the series / parallel switch. the other mod I was considering was master bass / treble controls rather than just the regular low pass wiring for each. I'd have to be sold pretty well that it would be worth doing for the effort involved because changing back wouldn't be easy either.

interesting idea about changing the magnet as thats easy enough to do... except the covers are soldered on :(. always something ! but I think thats approachable.


gregory said:
The neck pickup sounds great! If the tone control on the neck is 500k, then you might get a more useful range by changing it to 250k, audio taper. It will be the same as a 500k audio taper pot between 7 and 8.

If you want the bridge pickup to be brighter and more aggressive, swap its magnets to a pair Alnico 5s.
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SteveO said:
really glad I did the series / parallel switch
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From the specs and your video, I bet it works really well.

SteveO said:
interesting idea about changing the magnet
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Forum members have been sharing their findings for a while now. There are two bar magnets in there; some guys are mixing and matching different types.

I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to deal with the controls after getting the thing assembled. Hollow bodies are a pain. I like to keep things simple, myself; but you clearly know what you want and how to go about getting it.

Great job!
 
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thanks !

ever tried a AL 3 or 4 ? 5 seems like the extreme other end. found them on ebay for cheap enough I could get one of each to play with... looking for moderately brighter bridge, with I guess what you'd consider a more country / rockabilly sound.

next project : replace the nut :( when I bought it I saw slots where deep but action was ok. with the new Rotosound strings on with lower tension, getting some buzzing that wasn't there with whatever 009 original light gauge set that was on it. then, maybe I'm done messing with it ;)

of course I'm very tempted now to rip out the pups in my SG, send then to ebay and put something in I like better.... or maybe sell the gtr outright but just VERY used to playing it. the new one has taken some getting used to.

S


gregory said:
From the specs and your video, I bet it works really well.

Forum members have been sharing their findings for a while now. There are two bar magnets in there; some guys are mixing and matching different types.

I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to deal with the controls after getting the thing assembled. Hollow bodies are a pain. I like to keep things simple, myself; but you clearly know what you want and how to go about getting it.

Great job!
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I've used A3s and A4s. I like what the former has offered me in the neck. I have yet to find an application for the latter that I liked. Tried the 59N and the Duncan Distortion Neck. Listened to clips of the SNS and DMZ PAF Masters. I simply don't understand the love. The wood and the wind have a lot to do with it so it isn't right for me to dismiss the A4 outright, which I have done in the past. Still, I've yet to hear a single clip I've liked; and I have done a lot of searching, including what has been offered by forum members. None of it has sounded good to me yet.

Anyway, I'd throw in a pair of polished A5 and then figure out where to go from there if it doesn't work. A3 is pretty weak, which is probably not what you want in a Phat Cat against what you have in the neck. Then again, I thought the Phat Cat with stock magnets would have been weak. If they were strong enough then the weaker A3 may still be OK.

Anyway, I recommend Philadelphia Luthiers, but Addiction FX should be fine as well. I've used both.
 
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