super quick mic test

DankStar

DankStar

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been wanting to test out my senheiser hanging mic. at the same time testing my modeler (plexi + modeled TS) through a tube amp (60s bogen challenger PA) and typical speaker cab (2 x 12, v30s).

had to cut out a lot of higher register. I'm guessing most of that was the digital modeling yuckies? sounded better in the room (reminds me how I don't like micing amps much)

bass guitar jack is messed up but went with it for the test.

I'm sure I can do better but that's for when I have more time...

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Sounds good to me. Which Sennheiser are you running, a 609 or 906? I found the 609 was a little brighter than I wanted to use most of the time, so ended up getting a 906 which has a switch to cut the highs back a bit.
 
GuitarStv said:
Sounds good to me. Which Sennheiser are you running, a 609 or 906? I found the 609 was a little brighter than I wanted to use most of the time, so ended up getting a 906 which has a switch to cut the highs back a bit.
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I thought you were joking at first. I had no idea there was an evil twin with backwards numbering and more features. I have the 609.

That explains some things - bright mic, plus a modeler, plus a v30. No wonder I had to cut a lot of highs.

I don’t mind doing it in the box now that I know it’s a typical issue.
 
El Dunco said:
Is everyone going to overlook the PA conversion?
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Those are my only full-tube amps: a Bogen Challenger, two Precision Electronics, a Bell Carillion and a Realistic Carnival. I used to get them off eBay (a couple already converted) and a few I took to M-tronics in Mesa AZ. They all have different power tubes, some kinda weird. No effects loops so their preamps do color the sound a bit and add grit in a good way. Typically I’ll just run pedals into them. I’m surprised they still work it’s been like 20 years!
 
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DankStar said:
Those are my only full-tube amps: a Bogen Challenger, two Precision Electronics, a Bell Carillion and a Realistic Carnival. I used to get them off eBay (a couple already converted) and a few I took to M-tronics in Mesa AZ. They all have different power tubes, some kinda weird. No effects loops so their preamps do color the sound a bit and add grit in a good way. Typically I’ll just run pedals into them. I’m surprised they still work it’s been like 20 years!
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How very hipster, doing it before it was cool!
 
El Dunco said:
How very hipster, doing it before it was cool!
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People were definitely doing it but the lunchbox craze was just about to hit. The valve junior may have been out, it was around that time. I got a little carried away but it was just too easy to pop into m-tronics, and they did them up pretty cheap.
 
DankStar said:
thanks! I'm gonna try blending it with a 57 too. I love the simplicity, just hang it
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They’re amazing like that when positioned right. With the right blend of mics, you absolutely can recreate the parts you love most about your sound in the room, on recording. My favourite combo to date is a Heil PR30 and an e906, sometimes even with a figure 8 pattern condenser lined up underneath.
 
El Dunco said:
They’re amazing like that when positioned right. With the right blend of mics, you absolutely can recreate the parts you love most about your sound in the room, on recording. My favourite combo to date is a Heil PR30 and an e906, sometimes even with a figure 8 pattern condenser lined up underneath.
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With two are you doing both up close or is one farther away? I was thinking off center on each speaker but some distance might be cool
 
DankStar said:
With two are you doing both up close or is one farther away? I was thinking off center on each speaker but some distance might be cool
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Depends on the room you have. If the room sounds crappy, then close micing is the way to go to reduce any weird reverb or frequency stuff going on. With two close mics I like to put them on different speakers and then pan hard left and right.

If the room is OK I like to mix a dynamic mic right up on the speaker cone with a large diaphragm condenser from about six to eight feet back pointing at the amp. You have to play around with positioning a bit to avoid any weird phase stuff, but when it's set up right I find it lets you mix them together without panning to get a very true representation of the sound of the amp in the room.
 
I do two close mics. Exact same distance from the cabinet and I mean precision measured for no phase artefacts whatsoever. There might also be ambient/more distant mics in addition. I make sure the phase is aligned in post.

It doesn’t have to be phase-interaction free. There’s an art to deliberately invoking comb-filtering to achieve the desired results.
 
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