Super vs Twin reverb
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FuseG4
Our Neighbor Totoro
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
One of the best amps I played was a silver bronco amp, basically champ. At first I was like why's it so farty but it grew on me as i played it. It gives it attitude and you can totally control how much it farts and when with just your hands, and it's as musical as I've ever heard a flubby low end to be
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One of the best amps I played was a silver bronco amp, basically champ. At first I was like why's it so farty but it grew on me as i played it. It gives it attitude and you can totally control how much it farts and when with just your hands, and it's as musical as I've ever heard a flubby low end to be
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jtees4
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
I had a Twin and Super Twin in the late 70's. I was looking for nothing but power at the time (I think it was an ego thing when I was young). Then I got a full Marshall Major Stack (I believe it was late 60's) after all, I was playing in all these little NYC clubs at the time....I certainly needed all that power :naughty:
I had a Twin and Super Twin in the late 70's. I was looking for nothing but power at the time (I think it was an ego thing when I was young). Then I got a full Marshall Major Stack (I believe it was late 60's) after all, I was playing in all these little NYC clubs at the time....I certainly needed all that power :naughty:
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
I've only recently fallen in love with Fender amps. I've been a Marshall sorta guy for a long time, then I got into some Vox AC30 vibes, now I've played a few old and new Fender amps and I just love how lush they are. The silverface amps from the 70's are amazing to my ears. I've always felt that the Twin was the penultimate Fender amp as it had lush reverb, killer tremolo, and as much headroom as one could want. The killer for it was its weight, so I never got one.
Enter the Pro Reverb - everything the twin does, but at lower wattage. The late 70's silverface ones are the closest you'll get to a Twin, but with about half the output. The early and mid 70's PR's are different in that they break up earlier and are tube rectified. I've not played a Blackface PR, though I have played a '68 Silverface, which is apparently the BF circuit..
Fender had (has) a habit of creating subtle variations on their base designs and giving the resulting product a wildy different name when it comes to amps.. The BF flavours of Bassman, Bandmaster, Vibrolux, Tremolux, Super Reverb, Deluxe Reverb are all vastly similar in their principle design, but they vary in output (OP valves and transformer sizes), and then some have vibrato, some have reverb, some have both! And then they just package them in different speaker combinations. I love them all though
I've only recently fallen in love with Fender amps. I've been a Marshall sorta guy for a long time, then I got into some Vox AC30 vibes, now I've played a few old and new Fender amps and I just love how lush they are. The silverface amps from the 70's are amazing to my ears. I've always felt that the Twin was the penultimate Fender amp as it had lush reverb, killer tremolo, and as much headroom as one could want. The killer for it was its weight, so I never got one.
Enter the Pro Reverb - everything the twin does, but at lower wattage. The late 70's silverface ones are the closest you'll get to a Twin, but with about half the output. The early and mid 70's PR's are different in that they break up earlier and are tube rectified. I've not played a Blackface PR, though I have played a '68 Silverface, which is apparently the BF circuit..
Fender had (has) a habit of creating subtle variations on their base designs and giving the resulting product a wildy different name when it comes to amps.. The BF flavours of Bassman, Bandmaster, Vibrolux, Tremolux, Super Reverb, Deluxe Reverb are all vastly similar in their principle design, but they vary in output (OP valves and transformer sizes), and then some have vibrato, some have reverb, some have both! And then they just package them in different speaker combinations. I love them all though
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
As someone who’s never tried either amp, I consider both of them to be for people with different needs. A DRRI or HRD is the most I would need from the Fender side to solve my problems.
As someone who’s never tried either amp, I consider both of them to be for people with different needs. A DRRI or HRD is the most I would need from the Fender side to solve my problems.
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
Dude, Ry Cooder said in an interview he used a champ on a lot of his slide work. He claimed he used a vibro champ on the movie "crossroads" and with that Tele he got some very cool tones out of that amp.
Dude, Ry Cooder said in an interview he used a champ on a lot of his slide work. He claimed he used a vibro champ on the movie "crossroads" and with that Tele he got some very cool tones out of that amp.
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
The Twin is a great jazz amp, its also a great clean tone for strats tones like "Sultans of Swing" but its not something I would want to push to a breakup point because its too loud at that point to be useful in most situations. I think the better amp for gigging becouse of the wattage level is the Super because its still got enough clean headroom an with the 10inch speakers it will be more touch responsive at lower volume for clean pick attack and spanky tones or slightly pushed rythem and lead tones
The Twin is a great jazz amp, its also a great clean tone for strats tones like "Sultans of Swing" but its not something I would want to push to a breakup point because its too loud at that point to be useful in most situations. I think the better amp for gigging becouse of the wattage level is the Super because its still got enough clean headroom an with the 10inch speakers it will be more touch responsive at lower volume for clean pick attack and spanky tones or slightly pushed rythem and lead tones
NegativeEase
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
SF hate is mostly just parroting -I believed it when I was a kid in the 80s because that was the thing -Silverfaces suck.
I dare anyone to try a late 60s and 70s Silverfaces like a Deluxe Reverb and then try to repeat that old fashion 1970 and 80s hate.
SF hate is mostly just parroting -I believed it when I was a kid in the 80s because that was the thing -Silverfaces suck.
I dare anyone to try a late 60s and 70s Silverfaces like a Deluxe Reverb and then try to repeat that old fashion 1970 and 80s hate.
NegativeEase
New member
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
Ha! Metalzone into a Silverface Fender using a Guitar made of non-tonewood composites.
I think you would be the punkest antihero M'fer on the scene for sure.
Ha! Metalzone into a Silverface Fender using a Guitar made of non-tonewood composites.
I think you would be the punkest antihero M'fer on the scene for sure.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
I did that as a kid, with the same SF Super I use now. It sounded metal as hell to my 15 yr old ears. My modded DS-1 with the drive cranked with my Green Rhino in front sounds pretty mean. Very raw, like some of the better live Nirvana tones.
I did that as a kid, with the same SF Super I use now. It sounded metal as hell to my 15 yr old ears. My modded DS-1 with the drive cranked with my Green Rhino in front sounds pretty mean. Very raw, like some of the better live Nirvana tones.
beaubrummels
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
I prefer the Super Reverb. Can do bright clean or sweet breakup. The 4x10s sound different from all the 12” Fenders I’ve played, definitely different from the Twins I’ve played. Compared to 12”s, the 10”s have a darker top end, and a midrange boxy tunnel kind of sound IME. Something similar to my VOX AC30s and my Hiwatt 4123. At least they all mix together really well in a recording. Make a great stereo image together in a mix.
I prefer the Super Reverb. Can do bright clean or sweet breakup. The 4x10s sound different from all the 12” Fenders I’ve played, definitely different from the Twins I’ve played. Compared to 12”s, the 10”s have a darker top end, and a midrange boxy tunnel kind of sound IME. Something similar to my VOX AC30s and my Hiwatt 4123. At least they all mix together really well in a recording. Make a great stereo image together in a mix.
NegativeEase
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
many of those that are as heavy or heavier at least come standard with wheels -except Orange -they too have stock in a shoulder replacement prosthetic company. :lmao:
worth noting, when people make "twin" heavy jokes on here -they are typically indicting the entire class of "twin" style amps
Anyone who buys a Twin, I suggest getting casters for the long term.
many of those that are as heavy or heavier at least come standard with wheels -except Orange -they too have stock in a shoulder replacement prosthetic company. :lmao:
worth noting, when people make "twin" heavy jokes on here -they are typically indicting the entire class of "twin" style amps
Anyone who buys a Twin, I suggest getting casters for the long term.
Boogie Bill
New member
Re: Super vs Twin reverb
Anyone playing a Twin...needs to work out! Get pumped!
Part of the difficulty with a Super Reverb is its size; it is so tall that it is unwieldy. At least the Quad Reverb (412 combo) and the Super Six Reverb (610 combo) had side handles. THE single-most unmovable amp I have ever seen was a player I knew in the early '70s who had a Super Six...with factory-loaded JBL 10" speakers. Well over 100 lbs., and a marvelous sounding amp.
My Mark III and IV EVM combos come in around 75 lbs. But it is somewhat manageable because they are so compact...like a .44 Magnum snubbie.
And no matter how much I workout I would swear all my amps gain about 20 lbs. by the end of a four-hour gig. And they are SO UNDISCIPLINED! I have spent a lot of time trying to teach them to jump into the van by themselves, but they just sit there...unmoving...until I pick them up myself! Even threatening them with a trip to the pawnshop doesn't work. Such ingrates!
Bill
Anyone playing a Twin...needs to work out! Get pumped!
Part of the difficulty with a Super Reverb is its size; it is so tall that it is unwieldy. At least the Quad Reverb (412 combo) and the Super Six Reverb (610 combo) had side handles. THE single-most unmovable amp I have ever seen was a player I knew in the early '70s who had a Super Six...with factory-loaded JBL 10" speakers. Well over 100 lbs., and a marvelous sounding amp.
My Mark III and IV EVM combos come in around 75 lbs. But it is somewhat manageable because they are so compact...like a .44 Magnum snubbie.
And no matter how much I workout I would swear all my amps gain about 20 lbs. by the end of a four-hour gig. And they are SO UNDISCIPLINED! I have spent a lot of time trying to teach them to jump into the van by themselves, but they just sit there...unmoving...until I pick them up myself! Even threatening them with a trip to the pawnshop doesn't work. Such ingrates!
Bill
NegativeEase
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
I had to get my left shoulder rebuilt 2 years ago -torn labrum and busted cuff -they call it the "luggage injury" -too much picking up heavy combos and cabs by the handle for 4 decades.
I had to get my left shoulder rebuilt 2 years ago -torn labrum and busted cuff -they call it the "luggage injury" -too much picking up heavy combos and cabs by the handle for 4 decades.
Boogie Bill
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Re: Super vs Twin reverb
So sorry. Hope you are well now.
Bill
So sorry. Hope you are well now.
Bill
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