Suprised by my Boss DS-1

Koreth

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So in my continuing adventures of trying to get a sound I really like out of the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe I'm borrowing until my Mesa is out of the shop I decided to try to run my two dirt pedals, the Boss DS-1 and Boss SD-1 directly into the clean channel and use them as my primary source of dirt. Now don't get me wrong, the HRDx has a very nice sounding drive channel that I'd bet could hold it's own against a boutique pedal or two for a light to medium gain crunch/overdrive/distortion. But when the gain is turned up to a level more appropriate for the modern hard rock sound of my band, the low end starts to get mushy. So it's back to the pedals I go.

I hooked up my Boss DS-1 and used that as my lower gain light crunch sound, with the SD-1 in front to boost it into a higher gain sound. On the DS-1 I turned the volume almost all the way up, (so maybe it's driving the amp itself a bit, I dunno) with the gain somewhere between noon and 2, for a light to medium crunch. The SD-1 was tried a few different ways, and I eventually settled for drive and volume both a bit past noon, with the tone pulled back to about 1/3 to tame the high end a bit.

Now, my DS-1 is not stock. I've done the phat mod to it, which is two resistors on the transistor gain stage before the opamp to lower the its gain and treble boost - taming a lot of the stock fizz. While I was in there, I also changed out the capacitor input to that stage from .047µF to .033µF to trim the bass just a wee bit, and changed out the clipper diodes for a pair of 1N400Xs and a red LED. Really, one cap, two resistors, and three diodes, that's it. But wow, what what a difference it makes -- the pedal has noticeably less gain than before, and in a good way.

With the gain on the DS-1 between noon and 2 o'clock, I was able to get a light to medium crunchy distortion that wasn't to fizzy. But what surprised me was just how dynamic it could be. With the gain around 12:30 to 1, I could get get a light light crunch with my normal picking strenght. But simply by lightening up with the pick, I could get things to clean up to where there was no breakup that I could tell, and just a bit of compression. I didn't even have to touch the volume knob of my guitar to clean things up, but I could if I wanted to. Doing so cleaned things up more and gave the lightest breakup with my heaviest picking.

I thought this was considered the ideal way to use a boutique overdrive pedal or natural power tube overdrive of a Fender-style amp, not a cheap distortion pedal. I gotta say, playing with such dynamics is fun. I can see how dynamics like that can be more expressive than the balls-to-the-wall, full-out, in-your-face, angry, grindy distortion of modern hard rock and metal. Now this doesn't mean I'm gonna sell off the Boogie and make the DS-1 into a Fender my main sound, but it is going to be fun to try to work that kind of lighter, more dynamic tones into more of the band's songs.
 
Re: Suprised by my Boss DS-1

I used a DS1>TS9 for many many years. Especially into my HRDx clean channel that combo simply works. I like the TS second because it will fatten up the DS but I still get the compression and smoothness from the DS as well. I really think people should jsut forget about the drive channels on the HRDx because the clean channel takes pedals so well it always seems to satisfy.
 
Re: Suprised by my Boss DS-1

I really like a lightly modded DS-1. It doesn't even have to get to Keeley Seeing Eye/Analogman whatever....change some values here and there...and I really like adding an LED.

Actually funny enough I never keep DS-1s. For some reason a lot of people here in Costa Rica love their DS-1 pedals so I've made more than a couple bucks flippin DS-1s. I'll buy them at around $25 from the States and I can sell them for $60 easy. Specially if it's been modded.

There was this one DS-1 that killed it for me. I shouldn't have flipped that one for sure. Some previous owner had changed some caps and swapped a diode for an LED. That thing into my old Catalibread DLS into a Fender style amp sounded exactly like a killer 80's hard rock tone. But not rack gear tons of crap, chorusy 80's....I'm talking roaring pushed front end of a Marshall rock tones!

I'm getting another Dirty Little Secret soon...and with it...a modded DS-1.
 
Re: Suprised by my Boss DS-1

I have tried so many od/dist pedal combinations its silly...of course none of them will sound as good as your boogie. But a ds1 with a bit of extra midrange and a pair of led's sounds pretty good - better than most other dirty boxes - natural, smooth and fat.
Anyway, you mentioned that the bass tends to get mushy. The biggest downfall of the HRD is the (stock fender/eminence special design) speaker - loose, flabby bottom end. Even the 15watt blues junior can make then flab out. Better speakers, such as a jensen c12n for a classic fendery tone, or a higher wattage celestion like a g12m75 for a more girthy darker tone improve the amps sound and bass response immeasurably.
 
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