Surf rock guitar: budget project

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thefsb said:
Can you name or link some songs with the kind of tone you like best?
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Early Ventures like "Walk Don't Run" is Jazzmaster (the Jangly Crunchier tone) and a Strat (the more deep bluesy tone)

Mid 60s is Mosrite signature guitars which are sort of deeper sounding

then they returned to Fenders at the end of the 60s.
 
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NegativeEase said:
Early Ventures like "Walk Don't Run" is Jazzmaster (the Jangly Crunchier tone) and a Strat (the more deep bluesy tone)

Mid 60s is Mosrite signature guitars which are sort of deeper sounding

then they returned to Fenders at the end of the 60s.
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Yeah, but the influence he listed, Mdou Moctar, almost exclusively plays Strats.
 
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Chistopher said:
Yeah, but the influence he listed, Mdou Moctar, almost exclusively plays Strats.
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Understood, I was just giving a classic surf tone reference point -Listening to the 2 phases of the Ventures is an easy way to get to know 3 of the 4 most beloved Surf classic tones -the 4th being a Gretsch with Filtertrons.
 
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NegativeEase said:
Understood, I was just giving a classic surf tone reference point -Listening to the 2 phases of the Ventures is an easy way to get to know 3 of the 4 most beloved Surf classic tones -the 4th being a Gretsch with Filtertrons.
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Yeah, I'll be going down the strat road with this project. But I still want to listen to the other sounds. Part of the education.
 
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Would the Shadows be considered surf? They had the tone in the guitars, but much different European rhythms. They used the right guitars, though, and guitar was the lead instrument.
 
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SirJackdeFuzz II said:
A great little A/B demo :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIXVu9p3cyo
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That's tremendous. I like the Jazzmaster middle position and the Strat bridge.

But I think there's something missing, iiuc. The Jazzmaster middle combines both pickups. But the video shows the strat played with only one pickup at a time. Middle Jazzmaster ≠ middle Strat.

Btw, when I get my guitar, I plan to replace the bridge pup with an SSL-1 in a reverse slant ring. That frees up the coil tap switch, which I'll use to turn the neck pickup regardless of blade switch position. That gives the neck+bridge combination that few stock strats offer but should, imnsho.
 
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Mincer said:
Would the Shadows be considered surf? They had the tone in the guitars, but much different European rhythms. They used the right guitars, though, and guitar was the lead instrument.
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Not in my view, because they were from a cold cloudy damp island so they can't be Surf. But the influence is there. And Hank Marvin is, imo, one of the greats.
 
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BenPerkins said:
For recent bands, check out the Fathoms and the Nebulas:


https://youtu.be/tlJhCScYkbE


https://youtu.be/xFsDuPr9YSQ


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Thanks for those. Can't find The Nebulas in my streaming service but this album on youtube is a good start.

I've been diggin' The Mernen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQ8nPJz1pw Minor key easy listening with a surf aesthetic. They make it onto the list of bands I can put in dinner party palylists -- inoffensive instrumental music guests can mostly ignore while I enjoy.
 
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Synapsys said:
For the best Surf Rock tone I'd go with a Jazzmaster or a Jaguar. The Dick Dale strat tone is not my thing.

Got a Squier Vintage Modified Jazzmaster new for €200. Swapped the stock Duncan Designed for a Duncan Vintage Jazzmaster set.
Surf tone for days, and cheap.
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^^^ This. Strat is absolute generica---and how many surf guys actually played them? Mod the JM with 250K or 500K pots, shim the neck a bit, Boss reverb pedal (the brown one), and an amp with a lot of headroom.
 
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Mincer said:
Would the Shadows be considered surf? They had the tone in the guitars, but much different European rhythms. They used the right guitars, though, and guitar was the lead instrument.
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Don't know if they are concidered "Surf", probably not, but as someone else already mentioned, they sure deserve some credit!
Don't forget The Spotnicks while we are at it! They were a little underrated, everyone always mentions The Shadows, they are of course a great band, but The Spotnicks did hold their own in this genre in my opinion.
 
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