Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
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marcello252
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
is it a soapbar?
is it a soapbar?
crguti
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
As you can see in the picture, this reissue pickup is a humbucker which uses a bar magnet (like any other HB). It's very different than the original Wide Range which used rod magnets as pole pieces within the coil structure.
As you can see in the picture, this reissue pickup is a humbucker which uses a bar magnet (like any other HB). It's very different than the original Wide Range which used rod magnets as pole pieces within the coil structure.
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Silence Kid
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
I guess you'd want a dual-slug (edit, meant screw
) coil pickup for it to look "right" and to allow the poles to extend above the cover.
Wonder if is tremspaced?
I guess you'd want a dual-slug (edit, meant screw
) coil pickup for it to look "right" and to allow the poles to extend above the cover.Wonder if is tremspaced?
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
Dual screw coil surely.
Its not a great target for a regular humbucker. There are 3 exposed screws per coil. So if you have a 6 screw bobbin then you can't get the under-the-cover screws low enough to get the cover on, so you need wax to fill the gaps, and also to stop the screws contacting the cover.
Dual screw coil surely.
Its not a great target for a regular humbucker. There are 3 exposed screws per coil. So if you have a 6 screw bobbin then you can't get the under-the-cover screws low enough to get the cover on, so you need wax to fill the gaps, and also to stop the screws contacting the cover.
crguti
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
The pole spacing of the Fender reissue Wide Range pickups (Bridge and Neck) fits the SD Trembucker pole spacing.
It's odd to see the neck pickup with the trembucker spacing... the strings are way off compared the placement of the pole pieces. The pickups look cool with the nickel covers but the sound is very undefined. A lot of bass and harsh highs, and bcs of that the definition is missed bcs it's very mid scooped.
The pole spacing of the Fender reissue Wide Range pickups (Bridge and Neck) fits the SD Trembucker pole spacing.
It's odd to see the neck pickup with the trembucker spacing... the strings are way off compared the placement of the pole pieces. The pickups look cool with the nickel covers but the sound is very undefined. A lot of bass and harsh highs, and bcs of that the definition is missed bcs it's very mid scooped.
allbutromeo
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
I assume you're talking about the bridge pickup when you say harsh highs, my neck pup on my deluxe sound like the tone is rolled way off at all times. I've considered doing what you're attempting, but before you go that route, I've read on a lot of boards that swapping the A5 from the bridge and to the neck and the A2 from the neck to the bridge, and replacing all of the 250K pots with 500Ks will help. You may also want to look into the Mojotone "72 Clone" pickup set. While not exact replicas of the origionals WRHB, from all of the clips I've heard they are a vast improvement over the Fender WRHB reissues.
I just noticed you're in Denmark, so the Mojotone might not be available or might alot more if they are
I assume you're talking about the bridge pickup when you say harsh highs, my neck pup on my deluxe sound like the tone is rolled way off at all times. I've considered doing what you're attempting, but before you go that route, I've read on a lot of boards that swapping the A5 from the bridge and to the neck and the A2 from the neck to the bridge, and replacing all of the 250K pots with 500Ks will help. You may also want to look into the Mojotone "72 Clone" pickup set. While not exact replicas of the origionals WRHB, from all of the clips I've heard they are a vast improvement over the Fender WRHB reissues.
I just noticed you're in Denmark, so the Mojotone might not be available or might alot more if they are
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Silence Kid
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
1 meg pots were standard with original wide range pickups, but those have different construction anyway. Agree on trying a higher value.
1 meg pots were standard with original wide range pickups, but those have different construction anyway. Agree on trying a higher value.
Cdwillis
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
Does anyone know what kind of bar magnets Fender uses in those? Alnico 5?
I've only played a couple of those, so I can't remember much about the sound of the pickups, but it's odd that they're using 250k pots with humbuckers. They'd probably sound better with 500k pots.
Does anyone know what kind of bar magnets Fender uses in those? Alnico 5?
I've only played a couple of those, so I can't remember much about the sound of the pickups, but it's odd that they're using 250k pots with humbuckers. They'd probably sound better with 500k pots.
allbutromeo
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
From what I've read they're A2 in the neck and A5 in the bridge
From what I've read they're A2 in the neck and A5 in the bridge
crguti
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Re: Swapping the inner HB in a Fender Wide Range?
finally I had some time to experiment with the pickups.
My Fender Starcaster comes with 500K ohm pots for volume and tone, and 33uF caps. Using my compass, I found out that the neck pickup has less magnetic pull than the bridge, so I guess the neck is A2 and the bridge is A5.
the only 'mod' I did was to play with the pole pieces height, and I got a better sound out of the pickups. I found no need to swap the pickups.
That's all
finally I had some time to experiment with the pickups.
My Fender Starcaster comes with 500K ohm pots for volume and tone, and 33uF caps. Using my compass, I found out that the neck pickup has less magnetic pull than the bridge, so I guess the neck is A2 and the bridge is A5.
the only 'mod' I did was to play with the pole pieces height, and I got a better sound out of the pickups. I found no need to swap the pickups.
That's all
