Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

As lackluster as Jimmy Vaughn's playing is these days (sounds like he's falling asleep when he's playing), and as tinny as his tones are, I don't know if I'd do anything the way he does.

I know jack squat about JV's music. All's I know is that he moved the tone control from the middle pickup to the bridge and it's a popular mod since his signature model ~'96. This way there is no load on the middle at all and it stands out as a bright alternative. My bridge pickup has a baseplate too FWIW.
 
Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

Just word to the wise, a strat can do a lot more with the standard single soils. I did my last one with Jmmy Vaughan wiring (a master tone except for the middle pickup is unloaded) then I used the 2nd spot as a blend pot, which gives me the neck + mid (in 1, 5) and all 3 pickups at once (in 2,4). This is awesome and pretty easy to do. WAY better than stock wiring, imo.

Is it possible to leave middle pickup unloaded with blend pot wiring? Any diagram?
 
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Yes, just do the JV wiring, use master volume and follow the blend pot diagram (replaces 2nd tone control). This is the most versatility I have heard from a strat without a super switch. Me likey.
 
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I'd wire it like this:

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Master volume and master tone.

Use the third control to blend the neck and bridge pickups together when the selector switch is set for either the neck or bridge pickup. You can order a Blender pot from Lindy Fralin or use a no load pot.

I'd omit the "volume kit". Although some people like a bright cap or R/C network across the volume control to retain highs when the volume is turned down, I don't.

However, you could connect the tone control to the middle terminal of the volume pot and have the 50's mod which is another way of retaining highs when the guitar's volume pot is turned down low.

Your call.
 
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Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

Yes, just do the JV wiring, use master volume and follow the blend pot diagram (replaces 2nd tone control). This is the most versatility I have heard from a strat without a super switch. Me likey.

I'd wire it like this:


Master volume and master tone.

Use the third control to blend the neck and bridge pickups together when the selector switch is set for either the neck or bridge pickup. You can order a Blender pot from Lindy Fralin or use a no load pot.

I'd omit the "volume kit". Although some people like a bright cap or R/C network across the volume control to retain highs when the volume is turned down, I don't.

However, you could connect the tone control to the middle terminal of the volume pot and have the 50's mod which is another way of retaining highs when the guitar's volume pot is turned down low.

Your call.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Actually, I have a fralin blend pot lying around not installed yet. From the diagram, it seems like I can't leave the middle pickup unconnected to tone pot?
 
Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

IMO, the G&L PTB system is the way to go. After years of using a 1960 Strat, I bought my first Legacy back around 1993 and I've been hooked ever since. It's so much better than the stock controls.

Bill
 
Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

I like the PTB; I haven't taken it out of my Legacy (yet). But I do think that Strats (and all multi-pickup guitars, really) lose a lot of great tones when they have a master tone setup. Some of the best "cocked wah" tones to be had on a Strat come from combining the wide open bridge pickup with the middle pickup with its tone rolled down. Or a wide open middle pickup with the neck pickup with its tone rolled down. More importantly, with a master tone, you also lose the ability to switch between one pickup with the tone all the way up, and another with a very different different tone setting. Master tone controls are not for me (except, of course, on a one pickup guitar).

Here is my sketch for the home-brewed wiring scheme I applied to my Mexican Strat. I love it. You can omit the neck on push/pull if you want, and just go with the one push/pull.

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Here are the combinations you get:

- Both push/pulls down: standard "vintage" Strat wiring, but with a 5-way instead of a 3-way.

- Neck on push/pull only: same as above, but adds neck pickup in parallel with all positions (independent tone control of neck and middle pickups is retained)

- Neck on push/pull down (off), and the other push/pull up:

1. bridge pickup with no tone control (as stock)
2. bridge pickup controlled by middle pickup's tone knob
3. bridge and middle pickups in series, controlled by middle tone control
4. bridge and middle in series controlled by middle tone, in parallel with neck pickup with tone control
5. neck pickup with tone control (as stock)

- Both push/pulls up:

1. bridge pickup with no tone, in parallel with neck pickup with tone control
2. bridge pickup controlled by middle pickup's tone control, in parallel with neck pickup with tone control
3. same as 4 above
4. same as 4 above (yes, two adjacent redundant switch positions – only way to make everything else work right)
5. neck pickup with tone control (as stock)

Notes:

1. There are some "sketch" lines that I drew connecting some of the lugs on the main (leftward) push/pull in the diagram. I put them there to show me how the contacts connect when I was designing the wiring. It should not be wired with those connections; they are internal to the switch and will depend on the position the switch is in. If the lugs are numbered left to right and top to bottom, only 1/2, and 3/5, should be connected by external wires. The end trimmings from your capacitors will do the trick.

2. In the picture, I drew the pickups on the wrong side of all the other electronics...however the pots and switch are oriented correcting to each other. Inside the guitar, the hot pickup wires that connect to the switch lugs actually end up going over the center line of the switch to the lugs on the opposite side, not to the lugs on the side closest to the pots in the guitar as shown in the picture.

3. I also (obviously) separated the DPDT switches from the pots in the picture, for ease of design. If you don't care about keeping the stock look, I'd go with separate toggle switches instead of push/pulls. That is more convenient IMO, but I didn't do it because I wanted the thing to look pretty stock.

4. The ground wire for the strings/vibrato is not shown in the diagram. That goes from the claw to ground somewhere inside the guitar.
 
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Re: Talk to me about SSS Strat tone controls...

If I'm using a more traditional Strat wiring I prefer to have tones for the bridge and neck and leave the middle without...I'm currently using a PTB setup in my Legacy tho...
 
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Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Actually, I have a fralin blend pot lying around not installed yet. From the diagram, it seems like I can't leave the middle pickup unconnected to tone pot?

It's a master tone control so it would affect all three pickups. You could wire it to just one pickup though. On my Strat I'm going to rewire it so only the bridge pickup gets the tone control.
 
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