Anybody use this pedal in particular? I've read great things about it in stereo mode.This would be for live use as an always-on pedal, since we're writing stuff for a three piece format. I've tried bi-amping through the HX Effects into dual half stacks over the past week or so and I love it, think I'm going to stick with it for the new project I'm working on. I get a nice amount of separation with just a touch of chorus on one of the output channels but I'd like to have the option of a good two channel doubling effect without the modulation.
TC Electronics Mimiq - any users here?
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Phantasmagoria
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I used mine in stereo onstage a few times w/ my two Laboga 30W heads. As the only guitarit in the band I thought a nice stereo setup would be pretty sweet.
I went back to my (single amp) old setup though cuz it was just too much hassle. Lugging the two amp's around & then hooking everything up on stage ..kinda a PIA. Sound-wise it had plus's and minus's. While the stereo spread was nice. The pedal does suck out a lot of bottom end (and dynamics) and if the amps are'nt EQ'd right it can all sound a bit flat/boxy. It is certainly possible to sound huge though as well. But again it all took too much time and effort. & was a bit hit or miss. Like I said EQ'ing/balancing both the amp's right is the key.
I went back to my (single amp) old setup though cuz it was just too much hassle. Lugging the two amp's around & then hooking everything up on stage ..kinda a PIA. Sound-wise it had plus's and minus's. While the stereo spread was nice. The pedal does suck out a lot of bottom end (and dynamics) and if the amps are'nt EQ'd right it can all sound a bit flat/boxy. It is certainly possible to sound huge though as well. But again it all took too much time and effort. & was a bit hit or miss. Like I said EQ'ing/balancing both the amp's right is the key.
Phantasmagoria
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And yeah there's a slight phase issue as well.
Huh, the pedal sucked out low end and dynamics? That's strange. I would have figured one stereo side would be completely unaffected and the other just delayed or pitch shifted slightly. Good to hear about real world use, thanks.
Phantasmagoria
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Yeah definitely a reasonable amount of low end loss overall (not sure if it was just the "mimic"d track" or both). At least in my setup
Phantasmagoria
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Here's a basic demo I did back when I bought it. I think it's the standalone mono guitar track followed by the one take each of the Mimic's 3 settings (something + double tracked plus quad tracked). It's not drastic bass loss but it's there...
https://soundcloud.com/destinedtofester/mimiq-demo-mainfile-edit
It was actually a bit more prominent of a difference in a live setting...
https://soundcloud.com/destinedtofester/mimiq-demo-mainfile-edit
It was actually a bit more prominent of a difference in a live setting...
davesmith7
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I had this pedal in the past, it's pretty good for live gigs but I wouldn't say it's awesome. With the effect maxed out it actually sounded like a slight delay effect. I decided to sell it after a couple of months.
Coma
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I've had mine since I think 2018 or 2019? I love it but you can't really use it to record anything more than a demo. You'll run into phase issues once you mix.
It's pointless to use with just one amp, you need two. If you don't want to lug two big 'ol tube amps along, there are workarounds. Here's how I have mine setup.
1: Front of amp FX.
2: Main amp in.
3: Fx loop out.
4: Boost, Mod, Delay, Reverb, Mimiq (last in line).
5a: Mimiq to main amp Fx return.
5b: Mimiq to solid state power amp input.
Then both amps have their own 4x12 placed on opposite ends of the room. Works pretty well, but you'll need a secondary power stage that can keep up with your main amp. The beauty of this setup, apart from portability, is that you don't have to fiddle with dual channel switching, as the signal is just fed from one preamp.
It's pointless to use with just one amp, you need two. If you don't want to lug two big 'ol tube amps along, there are workarounds. Here's how I have mine setup.
1: Front of amp FX.
2: Main amp in.
3: Fx loop out.
4: Boost, Mod, Delay, Reverb, Mimiq (last in line).
5a: Mimiq to main amp Fx return.
5b: Mimiq to solid state power amp input.
Then both amps have their own 4x12 placed on opposite ends of the room. Works pretty well, but you'll need a secondary power stage that can keep up with your main amp. The beauty of this setup, apart from portability, is that you don't have to fiddle with dual channel switching, as the signal is just fed from one preamp.
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That's a lot of work (and a lot of gear) to bring to a gig, huh?
Awesome, thanks for sharing all that. It's good to hear that it works as the end of a signal chain. I'm using two separate half stacks.
Right now I'm splitting to A and B channels inside of the HX Effects and using different effects on each side. One of the things I have going is a polyphonic pitch shifter on one side only, so I can have parallel harmonies coming out of separate amps. I'm hoping the HX lets me route dual inputs through separate paths like this rather than making it be true stereo. If not, I can use one of the amps for all the effects and still control switching for the other, so at least I won't be tap dancing too much.
Aceman
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Yeh - a second guitarist might be easier...
Or some kind of direct stereo solution.
I'm looking to get the most out of the gear I have. No money for a new rig, no desire to swap everything out, no problem carrying an extra head and cab if I need to.
I'm also not running in true stereo. I like the different and complementary sounds of the two amps and want to keep the signal chains separate apart from switching. I'm basically there, I'm just wondering if the Mimiq's doubling will help me avoid the sonic effect of "collapsing to mono" at certain points in the room.
If somebody is all the way over to one side, right in front of one amp, then yeah. We'll be playing small metal shows with minimal PA support for the most part. It would obviously be easier to just play one half stack or bring a second cab for the other side of the stage. But I'm having fun playing around with the sonic possibilities of using both heads, and the effect of the harmonizer on one side only is really cool - it actually sounds and feels like twin guitars and opens up some cool avenues for further exploration. It also opens up the "stereo image", which means it contracts a bit when I turn it off, which is kind of disorienting. I'm sure that will vary room by room. My hope for a doubling pedal is that it would keep the separation consistently wider - does that make sense? What I'm looking for is more of a tweak than anything else.
Coma
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Yes and no.
You're never gonna do a gig without your amp, guitar and pedal board anyway (unless you're going the modeling/AIAB way), so on top of all that it's really just the extra power stage and it's requisite cables. Back line is usually provided by the venue, so it's not like I'm lugging around two 4x12's (although I've had to do that as well for some gigs).
The external power stage I use is the Harley Benton GPA-100, so it's not some giant heavy Marshall or Mesa tube power amp. Although, full disclosure, it doesn't really keep up with a 100w amp in terms of volume - I would probably need something like a Duncan Power Stage, but then we're talking a whole different league in terms of costs.
OTOH, it is more stuff to hook up, more things that can go wrong, and if the guys who set up the stage haven't done their cable management properly, it can be an absolute nightmare just trying to run cables or find that extra outlet you need.
I'm the only guitarist in my band, so for us it's worth it. But it does make things more complicated and it's more time you gotta spend setting up - time which usually is in short supply if you're sharing the stage with multiple acts in the same evening.
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Coma
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You'd think so, wouldn't you? You'd be surprised how many people turn up without an amp, or without a guitar, or high. We had one guy who writes really amazing, unique stuff, but for some reason insisted that rather than read tabs, I should video tape playthroughs of our songs, so he could learn that way. He still releases music on a regular basis, but he's a one-man show. For good reason, evidently. We had one dude in the band for like 6 months who was a professional classical musician (played trombone), but he couldn't make time for both. Eventually we just stopped looking.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
No I wouldn't because I interview hard. If we don't gel, they can go to hell. That's long before the first rehearsal.
But I am aware of the challenges of musicians.
