Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

Kivitel

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Okay, so I recently obtained a nice alder tele body. Black. Simplest thing in the world. Not a fender or mighty mite, but seems to be of respectable quality.

Anyway, it has a tele neck pocket. Problem is, I have a 21 fret strat neck I want to put on it (maple, 70's headstock). Now, I know that this will intonate correctly, BUT I will have two little cracks at the end of the neck where it joins up. Warmoth has a photo of what it looks like. Not a disaster but I want a neater looking joint.

Just for background, I want this to be a simple, easy project due to the fact I'm moving soon. So easy solutions are a plus. Here are the options as I see it - I want your inputs as to which seems easiest/best/ possible or impossible.

1. Stick the neck in, make a new pickguard. I've never done this. I was going to use styrene, and then lacquer it.

2. Use a disc sander to reshape the end of the neck to make it square. This would move the neck in about 1/16 to 3/32 or so. Would I still be able to intonate? Teles seem to have a good amount of space for intonation, way more than strats or LPs and such.

3. Use a tablesaw / minisaw / handsaw to cut a small ledge on the underside of the neck, deep enough so the fretboard overhangs the gap and comes up onto the body a bit. Same intonation issues as #2 of course, probably a bit harder too. Would I run into the trussrod?

4. I have a strat neck pocket routing template - I'm going to be routing this baby out for a neck p90 anyway - should I just route a little curve into the neck pocket and be done with it? Obviously this will require a small modifcation to the pickguard but that isn't much of a problem. Same intonation questions raised however.

I appreciate the communal wisdom of the forum bros.

Here is a kisekae of what I'm going for, btw:

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Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

Very minor work to get it to fit. I used the 1/2"mini drum sander on my Dremel to shape the pocket and pickguard. Use the Strat heel as your template, pencil the shape and slowly sand until you get a nice fit. I love my Jimmie Vaughan Strats neck, so I had to get one for the Tele-Gib too. Good luck.
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Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

Throw it in there and make or have a new a new pickguard made. I think this will be best.

Be careful with Neck pocket templates, usually they require you to shim the bearing on the bit and, it will probally be near impossible to get right on a pre-routed neck pocket.
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

The search function is disabled over there, but I saw a thread some time ago over at HC where someone used a hardening putty (JB weld, wood putty, etc.) to fix a poorly route MIM Tele neck pocket. He basically filled in a round the gaps, shoved the neck into get the proper shape for the butt-end of the neck, cleaned up excess and then let it harden. It looked pretty simple.
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

just buy a new pickguard. it will cover the gaps. my necks have a little overhang.
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

just stick it in there and play... don't mod the heck out of the body and or neck....
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

Ok...I've decided to
1. Obtain a p90 tele pickguard from guitarfetish
2. Route the neck pocket with my template (I tested it and it fits my neck well)
3. Put the pickguard on, route it down to the cavity
4. Entertain ladies

p90 TELE BABY! God I am psyched.
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

Ok...I've decided to
1. Obtain a p90 tele pickguard from guitarfetish
2. Route the neck pocket with my template (I tested it and it fits my neck well)
3. Put the pickguard on, route it down to the cavity
4. Entertain ladies

p90 TELE BABY! God I am psyched.

you can't route out a tele neck pocket to fit a strat heel as it will move the whole neck closer to the bridge..... at least not if you want it to intonate... Unless you plan to move the bridge father back as well?

If you take a tele neck and measure it from nut to the end of the neck it is the same distance as a strat's neck... So by routing out a tele's squared neck pocket for a rounder strat neck is going to move the neck in towards the bridge.. The old saying, measure twice, cut once....


many tele's with strat necks on them have a gap on either side of the neck pocket....

My Tele with a strat neck was a Peavey body... and the Peavey had a rounded neck pocket so an odd ball larger then normal heel Squier Strat neck fit it perfectly...
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

That's completely correct - but the amount of distance I need to move the neck back is probably less than 1/8", and probably more like 1/16th". If you look at most tele bridges, when they are intonated, they have around .3-.5" of screw at the end (the saddle screws are real long). So basically I think I'm safe moving everything back a smidge. Here is my kisekae mock up, by the by:
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Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

I'd go with the putty idea, unless you were to get a bridge with individual saddles (superior IMO to the standard bridge, but some beg to differ), which in that case, you would have the necessary headroom to make the neck pockets a little bigger, affecting without your intonation.
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

The only real solution that doesn't involve a full custom pickguard is the one I've chosen (route neck pocket/pickguard). Anything else requires the altered pickguard to be moved up to meet the neck. If this happens, it will be too close to the top edge of the guitar and look uneven (missing the screw holes and making a gap near the bridge). I have to cut INTO the body, and INTO the pickguard. The only other option, it seems, is to alter the neck, which would look weird.
 
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Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

4. Entertain ladies


i thought we weren't talking about GIRLS anymore, one of the G WORDS, I'll be reporting this to the ADMINISTRATORS who will deal with you ACCORDINGLY

and those ladies you're entertaining had better be 18
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

LAdies are not the same as girls
ladies are ladies
ladies are what gentlemen prefer
Seymour has nothing against ladies
Girls are another matter
 
Re: Tele/Strat/Neck pocket madness! Advice needed!!

There's no way I'd change the geometry of the neck pocket - that's asking for it to not intonate, IMO. It's really no more involved than getting a strat neck pocket cutout for a tele pick guard.
 
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