Tele tone tweaks

Big Tone Jones

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I recently bought a Fender Muddy Waters Telecaster, reputed by many to be a tone monster and a heck of a bargain. Mine, however, wouldn't stay in tune and the bass strings were, well, muddy. New strings made only a slight improvement. I could have returned it or tried installing different pickups, but I had a gut feeling that with a few tweaks it would come to life.

Step one was to loosen the neck and retighten it, making sure the neck was seated firmly in the pocket, especially on the bass side of the neck. The tone began to get a bit more definition.

Step two was to replace the standard non-compensated brass bridge saddles with compensated brass bridge saddles from Callaham. That solved the tuning problem and noticeably improved the definition of the bass strings, but now a couple of the treble strings had taken on a sitar-like tone.

Step three was to cut slots into the bridge saddles. My theory was that this would help the strings transfer energy more efficiently. If nothing else, it eliminated the sitar tone and kept the strings centered over the pole pieces--but the low E still lacked the snarl and growl I was looking for.

I was now starting to run out of low-cost tweaks. Fortunately, I remembered reading a suggestion in Dan Erlewine's book, "How to Make Your Electric Guitar Sound Great!" Per Erlewine's instructions, I removed the bridge plate and sanded it on a piece of wet-dry sandpaper placed on a perfectly flat workbench. The idea here is that because the bridge plate is stamped from a thin sheet of steel, it's not perfectly flat on the bottom and therefore doesn't couple to the guitar body as well as it could. Sanding the bottom of the plate evens out the peaks and valleys, improving coupling.

Well, to make a long story shorter, it worked! There may be more I could do (and I'm certainly open to suggestions) but my Muddy Waters Tele now twangs, growls, snarls, jangles and howls with the best of them. Does anyone else have any tweaks that had made dramatic improvements in the tone of their Teles?
 
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Sanding the bridge plate...hmmmm, never thought of that. Good thing to know. Welcome to the board!
 
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You know, I have similar problems with my telecaster. It's a 2003 MIM Fender Agave Blue Maple neck tele. I've posted a few rants about it not staying in tune, and the neck also going out of whack a bit.

I have 1 more final exam on Tuesday, when I get home for the break I'll try sanding the bridge and re-tightening the neck into place. Maybe that'll make a difference.

By the way, is the Muddy Water's tele made in Mexico or America?
 
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joelap said:
By the way, is the Muddy Water's tele made in Mexico or America?


It's made in Mexico. As far as cheap mods go, I'd look into getting some 250k CTS pots, an Orange drop cap, and a quality switch. This will improve the sound noticeably, and give you a good base for installing a set of aftermarket pickups in the future if you so desire. :burnout:
 
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again i have to say that benjy is right, some good pots and a good cap will improve your sound for about $12.00 if you can solder. sometimes those teles need a new switch too
 
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Welcome to the board, Big Tone Jones.

Actually, if anyone read my career path post in the sound room a few weeks back; BTJ is my buddy Gordon and is one of the people who helped me get where I am today. And an old friend. And a tone bro.

Keep posting, Big Tone!
 
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I think the Fender MiM models already have CTS pots. The MW model has an American Vintage RI bridge and pickups, so those are high quality as well. However, the vintage-style tuners are supposedly the Ping models, which are not as good as the Gotoh models used on the American Vintage RI series. So, a new set of tuners might help the tuning issue even more.
 
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Thanks for the tips--in particular the suggestion to swap the Ping tuners for Gotohs. I'm embarassed to admit that I was unaware of the difference. (And yes, I still remember which end of a soldering iron to hold. Matter of fact, I once built a kit amplifier from scratch when I was 12 years old. The things a kid will do to earn a Boy Scout merit badge...)
 
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well make sure you remember cause those soldering irons burn real bad. ;)

I am not sure if the MW tele already has cts pots or not, one of my 50's reissues came with cts pots and one did not so it is always worth a look. Plus the cap should be changed
 
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If you check the specs on the Fender website and decode their product descriptions, you'll find that the phrase "American vintage" means the same parts as used on the AV RI models, whereas "vintage-style" means Ping or other import parts that are typically of lower quality (may do the job, may not).

It's tough to keep track of the differences in the MiM artist models. If you consider the pickups, bridge, and tuners, then they typically offer one or two premium upgrades, but not all three (e.g., Custom Shop or AV RI pickups and AV RI bridge, or AV RI tuners and bridge, etc.). I wish I could get my hands on a MW, as it looks like a fine Tele and has a great rep.

Enjoy it!
 
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