Telecasters for Metal

Re: Telecasters for Metal

formula73 said:
I can't be bothered to read all 6 pages of Jerry bashing and stroking each other's junk, but I will say this:

A Tele with a bridge humbucker is not a Tele. It's a ****in bolt on hardtail with a humbucker. If it doesn't have that big plate bridge with a big, fatass slanted single and another single in the neck, it's not a goddamned Tele. I don't care if it clearly says 'Telecaster' on the hs.

Tele Deluxe w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

Tele Thinline w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

John 5 Tele w/ hums and a big paddle 3x3 hs? Not a goddamned Tele.

See where this is going? You can't point to something that's been 'modded' or 'improved' and use it to prove a point.

Just because that Nascar stock car is a 'Taurus' doesn't mean Tauruses go 215 mph.
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+1. To me, the original question loses its purpose/meaning when "Tele" is used simply to describe a body shape as opposed to the whole classic Tele/Esquire package, which is as you described it: hardtail, bolt neck, two classic-style singles. Of course a Tele can easily be a stereotypical Metal Guitar if it is built for the task. So can most any guitar. Let's see some classic Teles/Esquires being used for metal, not hot-rodded ones.

And I think the definition of metal is far broader than many think it to be. I consider a lot of late '60's and '70's music which is now called "hard rock" or "classic rock" to be heavy metal. It has nothing to do with whether it is good or bad. It has to do with stylistic features and musical history/evolution. There is plenty of metal that I think is pansy bull**** too. But it doesn't mean it ain't metal when judged by objective criteria.
 
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I can't remember where I read it, but someone wrote about one of the Motley Crue albums, Maybe Dr. Feelgood as being just another Brian Slagel fart. Since then I blame all the bad hair metal crap on a guy with a sloppy wet rectum, named Brain Slagel.

DankStar said:
From Sound of the Beast, The Complete Headbanging History of Heavy Metal, I quote:

"They told me about Motley Crue, and B!tch, and I started going out to see them. There was finally a metal scene in L.A., and it was kind of unbelievable."

- Brian Slagel, founder of Metal Blade Records
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Re: Telecasters for Metal

formula73 said:
I can't be bothered to read all 6 pages of Jerry bashing and stroking each other's junk, but I will say this:

A Tele with a bridge humbucker is not a Tele. It's a ****in bolt on hardtail with a humbucker. If it doesn't have that big plate bridge with a big, fatass slanted single and another single in the neck, it's not a goddamned Tele. I don't care if it clearly says 'Telecaster' on the hs.

Tele Deluxe w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

Tele Thinline w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

John 5 Tele w/ hums and a big paddle 3x3 hs? Not a goddamned Tele.

See where this is going? You can't point to something that's been 'modded' or 'improved' and use it to prove a point.

Just because that Nascar stock car is a 'Taurus' doesn't mean Tauruses go 215 mph.
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In that case, Les Pauls made after 1957 are not real goddamn Les Pauls. They are single cut away, double humbucker guitars with a stop bar. The real LP is a trapeze tail, with 2 P-90s.

Sound stupid?

So does the idea that a Tele with a HB isn't a tele.
 
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Re: Telecasters for Metal

formula73 said:
I can't be bothered to read all 6 pages of Jerry bashing and stroking each other's junk, but I will say this:

A Tele with a bridge humbucker is not a Tele. It's a ****in bolt on hardtail with a humbucker. If it doesn't have that big plate bridge with a big, fatass slanted single and another single in the neck, it's not a goddamned Tele. I don't care if it clearly says 'Telecaster' on the hs.

Tele Deluxe w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

Tele Thinline w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

John 5 Tele w/ hums and a big paddle 3x3 hs? Not a goddamned Tele.

See where this is going? You can't point to something that's been 'modded' or 'improved' and use it to prove a point.

Just because that Nascar stock car is a 'Taurus' doesn't mean Tauruses go 215 mph.
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Try telling that to Fender. Why do you have to be all purist on how a Telecaster should be? As long as Fender is putting out those models you mentioned, they are Telecasters. The only true exception is G&L, everyone else is a copy.
 
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Re: Telecasters for Metal

formula73 said:
I can't be bothered to read all 6 pages of Jerry bashing and stroking each other's junk, but I will say this:

A Tele with a bridge humbucker is not a Tele. It's a ****in bolt on hardtail with a humbucker. If it doesn't have that big plate bridge with a big, fatass slanted single and another single in the neck, it's not a goddamned Tele. I don't care if it clearly says 'Telecaster' on the hs.

Tele Deluxe w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

Tele Thinline w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

John 5 Tele w/ hums and a big paddle 3x3 hs? Not a goddamned Tele.

See where this is going? You can't point to something that's been 'modded' or 'improved' and use it to prove a point.

Just because that Nascar stock car is a 'Taurus' doesn't mean Tauruses go 215 mph.
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Thank you.
 
Re: Telecasters for Metal

guitfiddle said:
In that case, Les Pauls made after 1957 are not real goddamn Les Pauls. They are single cut away, double humbucker guitars with a stop bar. The real LP is a trapeze tail, with 2 P-90s.

Sound stupid?

So does the idea that a Tele with a HB isn't a tele.
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No, it doesn't sound stupid, to me. That's why I typed it. The final configuration of the Les Paul, the ICONIC Les Paul, is 2 hums, vv/tt, 3 way toggle, tuneomatic. THAT'S the LP that made most of the music associated with a Les Paul.

What iconic Tele sounds come out of the Jim Root with the m-fing EMGs? Exactly what sound does that guitar make that any other bolt neck with EMGs doesn't? A Tele is more than a shape. I dare say my Charvel Legend is more a real Telecaster than his Fender.
 
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Powdered Toast Man said:
This is what I agree with:
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Really? Because you didn't say that. You said, "Thank you," without qualification. I missed the footnote in which you clarified that neck humbuckers were oh-so-cool with you.

But hey, now that you're widening your narrow definition of what a "true" Telecaster is ever so slightly, Keith Richards, Fender, guitar history and I thank *you*, I guess. Maybe next you'll tell us that five saddles and Open G tuning are permitted, also.
 
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formula73 said:
No, it doesn't sound stupid, to me. That's why I typed it. The final configuration of the Les Paul, the ICONIC Les Paul, is 2 hums, vv/tt, 3 way toggle, tuneomatic. THAT'S the LP that made most of the music associated with a Les Paul.

What iconic Tele sounds come out of the Jim Root with the m-fing EMGs? Exactly what sound does that guitar make that any other bolt neck with EMGs doesn't? A Tele is more than a shape. I dare say my Charvel Legend is more a real Telecaster than his Fender.
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Well said.
 
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