Telecasters for Metal

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Really? Because you didn't say that. You said, "Thank you," without qualification. I missed the footnote in which you clarified that neck humbuckers were oh-so-cool with you.

But hey, now that you're widening your narrow definition of what a "true" Telecaster is ever so slightly, Keith Richards, Fender, guitar history and I thank *you*, I guess. Maybe next you'll tell us that five saddles and Open G tuning are permitted, also.

If you could hear/see how hard I'm scoffing, you'd probably be pretty pissed.
 
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You're still talking about this? WTF is wrong with you guys?

Seriously, this thread has gone much further than expected. Let's just all agree that if she likes teles with two humbuckers, than so do we.

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I'm the fukken Tony Danza of metal.

So... this is you?

 
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I can't be bothered to read all 6 pages of Jerry bashing and stroking each other's junk, but I will say this:

A Tele with a bridge humbucker is not a Tele. It's a ****in bolt on hardtail with a humbucker. If it doesn't have that big plate bridge with a big, fatass slanted single and another single in the neck, it's not a goddamned Tele. I don't care if it clearly says 'Telecaster' on the hs.

Tele Deluxe w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

Tele Thinline w/ Wide Range buckers? Not a goddamned Tele.

John 5 Tele w/ hums and a big paddle 3x3 hs? Not a goddamned Tele.

See where this is going? You can't point to something that's been 'modded' or 'improved' and use it to prove a point.

Just because that Nascar stock car is a 'Taurus' doesn't mean Tauruses go 215 mph.

So this thread was cross-posted on a forum I usually post at and I decided to register here to add my 2 cents to this discussion. Strat, Tele, LP are not names of single instruments. They are names of instrument LINES. That didn't happen last year either, it happened 40+ years ago.

Fender has a Tele line, a Strat line with about 40+ instruments in each line. They range from traditional to modern designs, entry level to custom shop. Gibson does the same thing with their Les Paul line and they did that from day one.

Guys like Leo Fender were not purists AT ALL. They created instrument lines to keep up with the music of their time and it's only natural that these lines will evolve as music changes. The Tele may look like a classic design now, but back when it was created, it was the musical equivalent of a spaceship. This whole vintage **** has nothing to do with Leo or Les Paul's original vision.

So the Fender Telecaster line is huge today. If you want a classic Tele they have that. If you want a Tele with modern features, they have that too.
Having more options is not a bad thing.
 
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So this thread was cross-posted on a forum I usually post at and I decided to register here to add my 2 cents to this discussion. Strat, Tele, LP are not names of single instruments. They are names of instrument LINES. That didn't happen last year either, it happened 40+ years ago.

Fender has a Tele line, a Strat line with about 40+ instruments in each line. They range from traditional to modern designs, entry level to custom shop. Gibson does the same thing with their Les Paul line and they did that from day one.

Guys like Leo Fender were not purists AT ALL. They created instrument lines to keep up with the music of their time and it's only natural that these lines will evolve as music changes. The Tele may look like a classic design now, but back when it was created, it was the musical equivalent of a spaceship. This whole vintage **** has nothing to do with Leo or Les Paul's original vision.

So the Fender Telecaster line is huge today. If you want a classic Tele they have that. If you want a Tele with modern features, they have that too.
Having more options is not a bad thing.

This is well and good, I agree and all that . . . but at this point we've moved on to important things like Pungent Stench and boobies. :naughty:

Welcome to the forum by the way. :friday:
 
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So... this is you?


LOL, not a huge fan, I've seen TDTDE a couple times.
 
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Interesting. So are you like the Bill Monroe of metal or something?

good sir i am metalmachine. I am like the charlie sheen of metal. Last time I had blood test they found traces of metal alloys that could only be determined to come from the poles in Toni iommi's p90. They also found traces of crown royal from the vomit of dimebag Darrell in ny urine.
 
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Keith Richards has thousands of guitars. I am sure he plays some of each type/configuration, and he also plays in several different tunings (including E standard), not just a single HB-modded Tele with five strings tuned open.

But Formula73 is not talking about whether or not Keith Richards plays a true Tele, so criticizing him on that point makes no sense in regards to the debate; it does nothing to prove or disprove his point. He is talking about whether or not a lot of the Teles used for metal fit the classic layout of a Tele.

Examples of metal being played with modified Teles don't really provide any insight into the spirit of the original inquiry in the thread IMO. Obviously the Telecaster shape can be used for metal. But can the classic Telecaster layout be used for it? The way I see it, the original question really focuses on the classic pickup layout of the Tele, rather than the guitar's shape. Otherwise, what does the question really mean? Of course a Tele can be easily used for metal if you set it up to be used for metal. So could any guitar shape.

My opinion is that something's "metalness" is all about who is doing the playing, rather than the guitar/pickups being used. It may not be common for a classic Tele to be used for metal these days, but it certainly could be done. They're quite versatile guitars. Earlier I posted "Communication Breakdown," which to me is definitive of early metal. If that ain't heavy metal, then "Maybellene" ain't rock-n-roll. There's Jimmy Page banging away on a Tele. That said, the song would have been just as metal with any guitar in his hands. It's the player, not the guitar, that makes something metal.
 
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It may not be common for a classic Tele to be used for metal these days, but it certainly could be done. They're quite versatile guitars.

This was the original sentiment of all involved, then it became a flame war over semantics.
 
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"Big Fat Mama" is most certainly metal...and not just musically, as you can see in this clip, with their proto-Iron-Maiden stage antics. They were trying very hard to jump on the metal bandwagon. When they had radio success, Quo were mainly a poppy rock band, but they were also very derivative; they were around among the earliest metal bands, and they acted like sponges. They did go through heavy metal phases, including one album that was basically them trying to sound like a mixture of Black Sabbath and Fleetwood Mac (Ma Kelly's Greasy Spoon). And they primarily used TWO Teles.


 
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So... this is you?


That's about as "metal" as the recording you posted from your band using your single coil tele.




But, you, being an "active member of the metal community", unlike me (?), could care less what I think. Right?

That's why you're so upset about me saying your music isn't metal, because my opinion means NOTHING to you. Clearly. :dunce:





BTW I never even watched that video.
 
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Status Quo are metal now? That's me out of this thread. :dance:
 
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So this thread was cross-posted on a forum I usually post at and I decided to register here to add my 2 cents to this discussion. Strat, Tele, LP are not names of single instruments. They are names of instrument LINES. That didn't happen last year either, it happened 40+ years ago.

Fender has a Tele line, a Strat line with about 40+ instruments in each line. They range from traditional to modern designs, entry level to custom shop. Gibson does the same thing with their Les Paul line and they did that from day one.

Guys like Leo Fender were not purists AT ALL. They created instrument lines to keep up with the music of their time and it's only natural that these lines will evolve as music changes. The Tele may look like a classic design now, but back when it was created, it was the musical equivalent of a spaceship. This whole vintage **** has nothing to do with Leo or Les Paul's original vision.

So the Fender Telecaster line is huge today. If you want a classic Tele they have that. If you want a Tele with modern features, they have that too.
Having more options is not a bad thing.

Wow. You make sense.

I hope you stick around. Welcome.
 
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