Tell me about Custom Custom
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blueman335
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No. The CC (SH-11) is just a Custom (SH-5) with a warm A2 magnet. It's wound to a hot 14K. The Duncan '78 EVH PU is a tamer 9K voiced more like a PAF.
In some guitars the CC can be pretty warm and rounded (comment made by some LP owners). The CC, C5, and Custom are all the same PU with different magnets. Members here also like it with an A8 and an UOA5.
No. The CC (SH-11) is just a Custom (SH-5) with a warm A2 magnet. It's wound to a hot 14K. The Duncan '78 EVH PU is a tamer 9K voiced more like a PAF.
In some guitars the CC can be pretty warm and rounded (comment made by some LP owners). The CC, C5, and Custom are all the same PU with different magnets. Members here also like it with an A8 and an UOA5.
Edgecrusher
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This rumour is tied to old old old ads that seymour duncan ran that had van halen listed next to the SH5 custom. But apparently Ed wasnt down with it and it got kaiboshed pretty damn quick.
In the old annals of ed fanbidom many have speculated that Ed was tied to the Custom custom as it offered a most similar to Eds with what was on the market at the time. Most fanbois dont believe this any longer but you still hear it thrown around once in awhile.
Its a cool pickup... forget any ed connection and enjoy it for what it is on its own.
This rumour is tied to old old old ads that seymour duncan ran that had van halen listed next to the SH5 custom. But apparently Ed wasnt down with it and it got kaiboshed pretty damn quick.
In the old annals of ed fanbidom many have speculated that Ed was tied to the Custom custom as it offered a most similar to Eds with what was on the market at the time. Most fanbois dont believe this any longer but you still hear it thrown around once in awhile.
Its a cool pickup... forget any ed connection and enjoy it for what it is on its own.
Edgecrusher
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Yeah pretty much... there is a very tiny chance there is some truth to it but no one will ever know or prove it. Pretty sure even Ed himself doesnt remember.
Depending on the guitar i actually really like the custom custom. the bass is kinda soft but it gives it a nice easy to play feeling. The highs are pulled back and there is a nice fat push in the mids.
Yeah pretty much... there is a very tiny chance there is some truth to it but no one will ever know or prove it. Pretty sure even Ed himself doesnt remember.
Depending on the guitar i actually really like the custom custom. the bass is kinda soft but it gives it a nice easy to play feeling. The highs are pulled back and there is a nice fat push in the mids.
PFDarkside
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Yeah I agree, whether he used one during 1984 or not, it's got that vibe through the right amp.
Yeah I agree, whether he used one during 1984 or not, it's got that vibe through the right amp.
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
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The Custom Custom kicks ass in a single guitar + bass + drums setup. Really fat and fills out the midrange. The bass is loose, but I think the low mids make up for the lacking bass to give the pickup a sense of a bottom. It's one of the three main pickups I've rotated in my #1. The other two are the Pearly Gates and the Dimarzio Bluesbucker. I've been curious to try it again in that guitar, but I'm probably not going to because I like the Bluesbucker, I've spent enough money on pickups, and it probably wouldn't sound drastically different. The Custom Custom, Pearly Gates, and Bluesbucker quite honestly covered very similar ground (at least in that guitar). Mids, looser low end, but slightly different voicings in the high end. The Custom Custom gets a reputation for being "dark", but I don't quite think that's completely true. It has treble; the treble is just more rounded and fluid than screaming.
The Custom Custom kicks ass in a single guitar + bass + drums setup. Really fat and fills out the midrange. The bass is loose, but I think the low mids make up for the lacking bass to give the pickup a sense of a bottom. It's one of the three main pickups I've rotated in my #1. The other two are the Pearly Gates and the Dimarzio Bluesbucker. I've been curious to try it again in that guitar, but I'm probably not going to because I like the Bluesbucker, I've spent enough money on pickups, and it probably wouldn't sound drastically different. The Custom Custom, Pearly Gates, and Bluesbucker quite honestly covered very similar ground (at least in that guitar). Mids, looser low end, but slightly different voicings in the high end. The Custom Custom gets a reputation for being "dark", but I don't quite think that's completely true. It has treble; the treble is just more rounded and fluid than screaming.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Depends on the guitar. In a Strat, CC's are a great choice; in an LP they may be too dark for some players. A hot PU with an A2 isn't going to be bright.
Depends on the guitar. In a Strat, CC's are a great choice; in an LP they may be too dark for some players. A hot PU with an A2 isn't going to be bright.
Edgecrusher
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But cant you really say this about any combo? It all depends on which guitar and which pup you are matching up.
But cant you really say this about any combo? It all depends on which guitar and which pup you are matching up.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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True; what works in Strats may or may not work in LP's, and vice versa. CC's are a warm PU, but in bright woods, it's not an issue. There's a lot of mahogany guitars out there, and many of those people would probably prefer one of the other Custom variants.
True; what works in Strats may or may not work in LP's, and vice versa. CC's are a warm PU, but in bright woods, it's not an issue. There's a lot of mahogany guitars out there, and many of those people would probably prefer one of the other Custom variants.
Lazarus1140
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I have a CC in the bridge of a Yamaha Pacifica 604. It really brought what was an overly bright sounding guitar to life, and auto-split with a RWRP single coil in the middle it just kills.
I have a CC in the bridge of a Yamaha Pacifica 604. It really brought what was an overly bright sounding guitar to life, and auto-split with a RWRP single coil in the middle it just kills.
GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
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I'm pretty sure that the Kramer 5150 and Frankenstein both had CCs in them back in the '80s and that aged, thrashed, abused pickup that's in Franky now was originally a CC.
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DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
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But see, I've always heard the pickup in Frankie is a Gibson that Ed rewound himself, or he took it to Seymour and asked that it be rewound/remade to some sort of tonal spec he was after (I heard it both ways, actually).
As for 5150 (the guitar itself), it's definitely a different pickup than what was in Frankie. It's not as raw-sounding. Could be a difference in production technique, could be he wasn't using his Plexi, but the guitar tone on 1984 is drastically different from Diver Down (1982).
Then again, I had a Kramer 300ST back in '88 (H-S-S, single-locking Floyd, eagle-beak, factory EVH job in black and green over pearl white base, and fluorescent orange stripes on the natural-base head) that had a 4-conductor bridge pickup (could swear there was a blue and an orange wire) that had a distinctly brownish tone no matter what guitar I put it in. Wish I still had that pickup, as I'd really like to know what it was.
But see, I've always heard the pickup in Frankie is a Gibson that Ed rewound himself, or he took it to Seymour and asked that it be rewound/remade to some sort of tonal spec he was after (I heard it both ways, actually).
As for 5150 (the guitar itself), it's definitely a different pickup than what was in Frankie. It's not as raw-sounding. Could be a difference in production technique, could be he wasn't using his Plexi, but the guitar tone on 1984 is drastically different from Diver Down (1982).
Then again, I had a Kramer 300ST back in '88 (H-S-S, single-locking Floyd, eagle-beak, factory EVH job in black and green over pearl white base, and fluorescent orange stripes on the natural-base head) that had a 4-conductor bridge pickup (could swear there was a blue and an orange wire) that had a distinctly brownish tone no matter what guitar I put it in. Wish I still had that pickup, as I'd really like to know what it was.
GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
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Franky had a ridiculous amount of pickups in it over the years, from Mighty Mites to DiMarzios to PAFs to Duncans.
It also had different bridges, at one point had a tone control, and several different necks.
5150 is theorized to be either poplar or basswood rather than the hard northern Ash that Franky is, so it was smoother and more polite. The CC was supposed to have gone into Franky around the time of 1984, too.
That pickup may have been a Schaller.
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Franky had a ridiculous amount of pickups in it over the years, from Mighty Mites to DiMarzios to PAFs to Duncans.
It also had different bridges, at one point had a tone control, and several different necks.
5150 is theorized to be either poplar or basswood rather than the hard northern Ash that Franky is, so it was smoother and more polite. The CC was supposed to have gone into Franky around the time of 1984, too.
That pickup may have been a Schaller.
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Edgecrusher
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Re: Tell me about Custom Custom
Oh no the Ed heads are at it again!
Oh no the Ed heads are at it again!
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Tell me about Custom Custom
The eternal debates:
-Which came first, the chicken or the egg
-What did EVH use in such and such on so and so to get this or that tone
-Who made who
-Where does your lap go when you stand up
The eternal debates:
-Which came first, the chicken or the egg
-What did EVH use in such and such on so and so to get this or that tone
-Who made who
-Where does your lap go when you stand up
GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Re: Tell me about Custom Custom
I definitely understand that not everybody is quite as obsessed with EVH as I.
Nobody seems to have chronicled EVH's gear quite as much as the guy that runs Gilmourish.com did with David Gilmour's stuff, though. LOL
But, yeah, the crux of my response was why the two guitars would sound so different at different times and why they would sound different even with the same pickup.
I definitely understand that not everybody is quite as obsessed with EVH as I.
Nobody seems to have chronicled EVH's gear quite as much as the guy that runs Gilmourish.com did with David Gilmour's stuff, though. LOL
But, yeah, the crux of my response was why the two guitars would sound so different at different times and why they would sound different even with the same pickup.